Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski, 1928-2017

Born Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzeziński
March 28, 1928
WarsawPoland
Died May 26, 2017 (aged 89)
Falls Church, VirginiaU.S.
Political party Democratic

The personification and embodiment of the difference between intelligence and ignorance in office.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

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Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on May 30, 2017 at 8:10am

GOOD MAN, ZBIG WAS.

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on May 30, 2017 at 9:23am

The Orwellian, Trilateral Commission and the murder & oppression of the Taliban are his legacy.  

I'd also suggest y'all read his book "Between Two Ages – America’s Role in the Technetronic Era" before you heap any more praise on his "One World Order"-ish head.

Needless to say, "Good Riddance"!

Comment by JMac1949 Today on May 30, 2017 at 9:28am

Zbig was right about one thing, the collapse of the USSR.  Never was a fan of his Machiavellian geopolitics.

Comment by JMac1949 Today on May 30, 2017 at 9:52am

BTW, Zbig totally screwed up when he advised Jimmy Carter to allow the Shah of Iran to come to the USA for surgery.  That move set up the Hostage Crisis and their aborted rescue Operation Eagle Claw that cost Carter re-election to a second term and led to eight years with Ronnie Rayguns as POTUS.

Comment by Ron Powell on May 30, 2017 at 10:06am

Amy, I expected precisely this kind of reaction from you..

Impetuous, off the mark, and completely out of bounds....

Please identify your idea of the ideal or perfect individual, present or past, re the conduct of this country's foreign affairs and/or the execution of foreign policy.

Comment by Ron Powell on May 30, 2017 at 10:11am

JMac, as I understand it the Republicans pulled some dirty shit re the hostages that resulted in them being held until after the election...

In any event Brzezinsky was infinitely more intelligent than what we have going for us now re foreign affairs/policy.

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on May 30, 2017 at 10:20am

Amy, I expected precisely this kind of reaction from you..

Impetuous, off the mark, and completely out of bounds....

How is stating documented facts "impetuous, off the mark, and completely out of bounds...."???  

Are you saying that my facts aren't accurate or are you excusing Imperialist Brzeziński for being one of the, as George McGovern said, "old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in”?????

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on May 30, 2017 at 10:21am

 as I understand it the Republicans pulled some dirty shit re the hostages that resulted in them being held until after the election...

Can you document that???

Comment by JMac1949 Today on May 30, 2017 at 10:43am

Rather than Republican interference, the delayed release of the  hostages was more a case of the Iranians sending a hearty "fuck you" to Jimmy Carter as well as a symbolic olive branch to Ronnie Rayguns. 

On November 2, the Iranian parliament finally set forth formal conditions for the hostages' release and eight days later Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher arrived in Algiers with the first U.S. reply setting off a slow motion diplomatic shuffle between Washington, Algiers and Tehran. The Iranians refused to communicate directly with the president, or any other American, so Algeria had agreed to act as an intermediary. This arrangement slowed down the negotiating process. As Carter recalled, "The Iranians, who spoke Persian, would talk only with the Algerians, who spoke French. Any question or proposal of mine had to be translated twice as it went from Washington to Algiers to Tehran, and then the answers and counter-proposals had to come back to me over the same slow route."

Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter in the November 1980 presidential election with pressure being added to the negotiations by the President-Elect's talk of not paying "ransom for people who have been kidnapped by barbarians".[9] and a New Years Day threat from Radio Tehran that if the United States did not accept Iran's demands the hostages would be tried as spies and executed.[11] In the final stages of the negotiations in Algiers, the chief Algerian mediator was the Foreign Affairs Minister Mohammed Benyahia who interacted primarily with Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher from the U.S. side.[12] Former Algerian ambassador to the U.S. Abdulkarim Ghuraib also participated in the negotiations.[citation needed] Much of the money involved was being held in overseas branches of twelve American banks, so Carter, his cabinet, and staff were constantly on the phone to London, Istanbul, Bonn, and other world capitals to work out the financial details.

The negotiations resulted in the "Algiers Accords" of January 19, 1981. The Algiers Accords called for Iran's immediate freeing of the hostages, the unfreezing of $7.9 billion of Iranian assets and immunity from lawsuits Iran might have faced in America, and a pledge by the United States that "it is and from now on will be the policy of the United States not to intervene, directly or indirectly, politically or militarily, in Iran's internal affairs".

In the wee hours of January 19, 1981, word came to Carter that the planes were on the runway in Tehran, and the hostages had been taken to the vicinity of the airport. At 4:44 a.m. Carter went to the press briefing room to announce that with the help of Algeria the United States and Iran had reached an agreement, but was halted because the Algerian negotiator sent word that the Iranian bank officials did not agree with the terms of accountability in the banking agreements, so the planes were returned to their standby position. The staff soon understood that Carter's trip to Germany to greet hostages would not occur until after the inauguration. The hostages were released on January 20, 1981, the day President Carter's term ended. While Carter had an "obsession" with finishing the matter before stepping down, the hostage-takers are thought to have wanted the release delayed as punishment for his perceived support for the Shah.

Iranians insisted on payment in gold rather than U.S. dollars so the U.S. government transferred 50 tonnes of gold to Iran while simultaneously taking ownership of an equivalent quantity of Iranian gold that had been frozen at the New York Federal Reserve Bank.[15] At 6:35 a.m., Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher informed Carter that, "All escrows were signed at 6:18. The Bank of England has certified that they hold $7.98 billion, the correct amount". At 8:04 a.m., Algeria confirmed that the bank certification was complete, and the Algerians were notifying Iran. At 9:45 a.m., Christopher told Carter take-off would be by noon, but, as a security measure, the Iranian officials did not want the word released until the hostages were out of Iranian airspace. President Carter said the United States would comply. - Iran hostage crisis negotiations.

Comment by Ron Powell on May 30, 2017 at 11:05am

No dispute re the analysis of the Hostage Crisis...

But I repeat:

"In any event Brzezinsky was infinitely more intelligent than what we have going for us now re foreign affairs/policy."

 

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