Even for such an exceedingly top-down organisation, I think the institution is too large, wide-spread, too personnel-entrenched, for any one leader to root out child-rape in anything like a thorough manner. Attempts must be made, of course. 

The core issue, I have held, is that the celibacy requirement, whatever benefits the Church believes may accrue from it, by its nature invites psychosexually compromised men -- who realise they are afflicted or no -- who would, naturally, seek the shelter of, the neighborhood respect-conferring benefits of this unique institution. Absent the celibacy rule, the percentage of these compromised men in Church service would fall for the haven would not offer the protective safe-harbor it remains for these men; fewer would seek the priesthood.

The Church has mandated priestly celibacy since around the year 600. Prior to that, there were no universal rules, only the less than wholly clear Pauline notion that celibacy (for everyone) would be a terrific spiritual way to go (if only it made any practical sense...). 

If it were ever to amount to a question of Church institutional survival, there would be a hundred and more spiritual arguments offered in the College of Cardinals for ditching the celibacy mandate and ditching would win hands down. Whoever the Pope were to be at such a perceived crisis-point, liberal or conservative, he'd be on the ditching side of the argument...that's the nature of all very old, vast, successful institutions that have survived the throes of the cultural and political change Rome has faced. The institution will always alter itself in the name of service, and perpetuity.

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Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on August 20, 2018 at 12:17pm

Good week...again. 

Comment by Ron Powell on August 20, 2018 at 12:36pm

"... the celibacy requirement, whatever benefit the Church believes may accrue from it"...

During my lifetime quest for the truth re the source and genesis of racism, I discovered an element and component of the source of the vast wealth of the Catholic church.

It's really quite simple yet is immensely profound in it's application and impact on the ways and means in which the Catholic Church accrued and accumulated it's wealth and holdings:

The principle of primogeniture:

"Primogeniture (English: /prməˈɛnɪər/) is the right, by law or custom, of the paternally acknowledged, firstborn son to inherit his parent's entire or main estate, in preference to daughters, elder illegitimate sons, younger sons and collateral relatives..."  ------Wikipedia

The clerical vows of chastity and poverty when combined with the requirements of celibacy ensured that the Catholic Church would inherit the estates of deceased clergymen who, as first born males,  would inherit the estates of their parents.

During the Middle Age, or Dark Age, feudalism was the common economic and financial paradigm...The rule of primogeniture was a controlling factor in the acquisition and distribution of wealth..

The Catholic Church engaged in the practice of selling indulgences to feudal lords which oftentimes included the exchange of a prominent position in the Church's clergy to the firstborn son for the promise of salvation and entrance into heaven ...

The kid got to become literate and a priest or a bishop or cardinal and the Church got richer from the kid's inheritance of the estate of his parents. Due to his vow of poverty, everything he would inherit went to the Church...

A few hundred years of that can cause the Church to want to hide all manner of debauchery, depravity, and perversion..

Comment by koshersalaami on August 20, 2018 at 12:41pm

600? Maybe a shot, though I’m not sure this will precipitate it. 

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on August 20, 2018 at 1:04pm

Oh...I see what you mean, Kosh. 

The Church has ... just see all the many and serious changes wrought by John 23rd in the early 1960s, the Friday food rules rollbacks, this pope's welcoming lgbt Catholics into a flock he well knows will he highly resistant....many more.  No institution is immune from the need for adaptation and the Church has. 

Comment by Ron Powell on August 20, 2018 at 1:05pm

Not a snowballs chance in hell....

Celibacy is,and always has been, an essential source, element, and component of the Church's income and wealth...

Consider this: If Jesus was a rabbi, then according to rabbinical custom practice and law, as I understand it, he would have been married and likely would have had children...

The Catholic Church claims that it's clergymen must remain celibate and chaste to emulate the ministryJesus. 

I have trouble reconciling the notion that Jesus was a chaste and celibate rabbi with the idea of chastity and celibacy being fundamental aspects of strict adherence to the emulation of the life of Jesus...

Somewhere along the line the whole thing got twisted out of shape and bent beyond recognition with the result being the enrichment of the Catholic Church.

No chance that it goes away without and empirical demonstration that allowing priests to marry is less costly than requiring them to remain celibate...

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on August 20, 2018 at 1:26pm

If he was an itinerant teacher of Jewish Law (a rabbi) he would almost certainly have been married by age 33.

NT speaks of his not feeling particularly welcome in his hometown and family; that may speak to his cultural violations as to marriage...we just don't know. On the other hand, the scene, the Wedding at Canna (where he produces more wine than was on-hand)...many scholars agree that it was his wedding, scrubbed up when the story was canonised. 

Comment by Ron Powell on August 20, 2018 at 2:12pm

"...the Wedding at Canna (where he produces more wine than was on-hand)...many scholars agree that it was his wedding..."

Married to Mary Magdalene,, whom the Curch turned into a prostitute....

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on August 21, 2018 at 7:24am

...and "Magdalene" was not the woman's family name, of course. She was said to be from the town of Magdala. 


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