What I still appreciate about Our Salon


I’ve been blogging on another site lately because I was looking for a place with some activity and someone I know here told me he was also there. It is mostly a luridly conservative site, you know, blaming victims, blaming Jews for everything wrong with the world (on a scale I never saw here), etc. A lot of post titles that sound like Ann Coulter wrote them. 

So this morning I decided to respond. 

Here’s my post title

“The Republican plan to starve the poor, forbid Blacks from voting, open death camps for gays & Muslims, deport whoever speaks Spanish, raise Earth’s temp 15 degrees, make everyone speak Russian, give the 1% everything, & appoint Trump king”

The entire post was:
“I figured I needed a lurid title to fit in here and I noticed that most of them are from Republicans, so I decided in the interest of balance that my side needed one.”

That’s the whole post.

Here’s how my first commenter started:

“Perhaps your article should contain some substance, to black up your claim?”
(Typo
not mine.)
It finishes with:
“A headline may be informative to those who do not read, but it is not a substantive article.” 

I’m not making this up.

This place may be on life support, but maybe I’m not giving what’s left of it enough credit. At least y’all aren’t drooling on your keyboards. 
I never thought a sentence like that would constitute an actual compliment. 



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Comment by Rodney Roe on October 21, 2018 at 3:41am

You have a stronger stomach and more patience than I.

Do you really think that was a typo?

What do you hope to gain from going there?

Comment by Rodney Roe on October 21, 2018 at 4:48am

kosh, have you visited any active blogs with a more balanced political bent? 

Like you I like it here, but with there were more of us who read and commented.  I wonder if there is some critical mass of readership and comments that is necessary to maintain the interest of new members?  We've talked about the fact that Open Salon was a peculiarity and that the blog craze seems to have died out, except for the political bloggers who seem - just my impression - to be mostly conservative.

Comment by koshersalaami on October 21, 2018 at 4:58am

They’re not all nuts. There are liberals, they’re just very outnumbered. And I disagree with some of the liberals about different things where I find common ground with some of the conservatives. And I find some points of agreement with some of them. 

What hope? Activity. I’m an extrovert married to a serious introvert, the result being that I don’t talk to people much. I get my extroversion fix on line. 

I haven’t visited more balanced sites. I went to this one because someone here goes there and told me about it in a PM. 

Comment by Steel Breeze on October 21, 2018 at 6:14am

that someone was me.i went because the lack of opposing pov and narrowness of topics here have become too uninteresting for me personally.having said that, this place,the management,the format,etc, are far,far superior to the other site.however,when put up a post there,there are many responses from left,right,center,and the posts on topics other than...race...religion...politics....contain much information.in other words,like Our and Open used to be.and yeah,they,like everywhere,have their share of extremists,assholes etc. i prefer it here...but the re-cycled subject matter is,for me, gotten old...

Comment by alsoknownas on October 21, 2018 at 6:19am

I look at www.dailykos.com a few times in a week but haven't made any comments. The political cartoons there catch my attention.

My feeling about cyber space is that it is too vast, and ultimately confusing. If I see something two or three times, the best I can do is hope that it is more factual than not. Other than that it seems the world has become one big op-ed page, some better written than others.

Comment by Steel Breeze on October 21, 2018 at 6:39am

i guess a good example would be the global warming debate,of which i am unsure but lean to the anti side.so i went to sites pro/anti, scientific,etc,and read what i could find.then when a post about it is put up over there its interesting to watch the debates with both sides usings the same stats and coming to opposite conclusions, and so you can throw out extremes at both ends and see a reasonable debate between the others,learning along the way.that only works with traffic and enuff opposing viewpoints....something we're missing here...

Comment by Ron Powell on October 21, 2018 at 7:03am

So, what is it that you "still appreciate about Our Salon"?

Comment by koshersalaami on October 21, 2018 at 7:53am

That no one here would read a post like that and think I wasn’t exaggerating, particularly when my post states pretty baldly that I am. 

However, I continue at the other site because, as Steel Breeze points out, there is more than one viewpoint over there, even if the significant majority is nowhere near mine. And there are people who I disagree with who aren’t nut cases, though the nut case extremes there are way past anything here. 

Also, that site never goes twelve hours without a comment on the site like this place sometimes does. 

Comment by koshersalaami on October 21, 2018 at 8:05am

Also, whether or not there are aspects of that place that drive me nuts, I do continue to comment there, and I thank Steel Breeze for introducing me to it. I guess with a bigger population you get more extremes. Also with a site that doesn’t seem to have much in the way of a functioning TOS. 

SB,
As regards climate, I’ll just point out one aspect of the debate to keep in mind:
Who is motivated by what?

Scientists in academia depend in part on grant money. That helps fund their research. The best way to get grant money is not to antagonize one of the wealthiest and most powerful industries on the planet. These guys are hard scientists. These types don’t tend to be as political as a lot of the rest of the population. They worry about what conclusions they can draw from data. 

So why would a bunch of frequently apolitical hard scientists deliberately oppose a massive source of funding? 

There’s only one obvious answer: Because that’s where the data took them. Nothing else adds.

As Ron might point out, there’s got to be a damned good reason not to follow the money. 

Comment by Steel Breeze on October 21, 2018 at 8:15am

true....thats why when i read a report pro/con i HAVE to look for who funded/founded the report....sometimes exhausting but necessary...

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