For all those looking to add to the Rightwing's slim majority in the Senate by tossing Franken out, a thought. Every male on the planet has, or will before croaking, kissed someone (mostly, females) who didn't really want to be kissed. No one should lose his job over that. There is a limit to punishment.

This is how stupid it gets.

A 6-year-old boy near Colorado Springs, Colorado, was suspended from school for kissing a girl on the hand. You read that correctly.

Al behaved like a 6-year-old, high on testosterone for sure. He isn't, on what we know, Roy Moore.

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Comment by Ron Powell on November 17, 2017 at 8:39am

@RY;  Please explain how calling someone names makes your point

Comment by Arthur James on November 17, 2017 at 8:45am

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Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on November 17, 2017 at 8:48am

No means no under all circumstances at work or in school etc and you have the right AND the responsibility  to say no when  approached in an inappropriate manner and the responsibility  and possibly the obligation to report it immediately...

The only change I'd add to that is that"No means no and unless you get a clear consent then it is a No!"  Groping someone when they are asleep is a clear "No".  She did NOT consent.  If you aren't "sure" then the answer is NO!

Additionally, you guys need to understand that often a woman is intimidated.  You yourselves have seen how women who dare object get slammed.  When you add in just how freaking traumatic it is to a woman to get treated like the person who is at fault because you object maybe you'll get it.  "Male privilege" is every bit as much into play with this as "white privilege" would be when a Black person accuses a person of "racism lite".  The "victim" is never at fault for being assaulted...  but they often are treated as the guilty party.

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Comment by Ron Powell on November 17, 2017 at 9:25am

@Amy;  "No means no and unless you get a clear consent.."..

I have problems/issues with "consent" at work etc...

Comment by Robert Young on November 17, 2017 at 9:39am

"Is there any aspect or element of these scenarios that you would want your  daughter, mother , sister, or wife to be subjected to without recourse of any kind?"

is there any aspect, the daughter... that enticed the guy to behave?  yes, NO does mean no.  the problem with that is when the NO is made.  if it follows minutes, hours, days, weeks... of "come on Big Guy!", then culpability is shared.  again, in the Franken case, we don't know how much (if any, of course) adult flirting went on leading to The Kiss.  given that the revelation comes as the October Surprise in the midst of the Moore situation via Fox, I have my doubts that it was all one sided.  call me suspicious of the Right Wingnuts.  one is judged by the company one keeps, after all. Hooters and Fox are at, or at least near, the top of the dung heap of female objectifying corporations on the planet.  Tweeden willing traded there.  it matters.

again, Franken took liberties.  again, his punishment is due, but not the same as for Moore or Quisling.  there was a time when stealing a loaf of bread meant death.  we should be past that.

all of you:  stop with the false equivalence.

Comment by Robert Young on November 17, 2017 at 9:45am

RP:

SBA revels in snowflake-ism calling.  if that's what you mean? 

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Comment by koshersalaami on November 17, 2017 at 9:49am

When I heard about this, I assumed the kiss was on stage. Then I went and heard Leeann Tweedon's description. This was assault. 

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