I have contended that the "mainstream media" has been complicit in perpetrating and perpetuating racism and racial stereotypes in this country...

Racism and racial fears, like sex, sells...

So much the better for the bottom line if sexual taboos and racial fears can be conjoined in the same "story"...

The notion that mainstream mass media is somehow liberal re race and racism is itself a myth, which has been used by the media to obfuscate its role in perpetrating and perpetuating racism in America...

How racist is this "viral" video now being aired and discussed on and in mainstream media?

Note the white/black imagery and implications...

Note the neighborhood in which this, "edited for TV", 2 minute clip, of a 10 hour video, is shot...

The media makes no attempt to compare and/or contrast reactions/responses in non-minority, non-urban neighborhoods...

And, certainly, there was no effort by the video producers and/or the media to address the matter/issue using a black actress as the decoy for the sake of analytical comparison and journalistic balance...

Yes, the white woman in this video is an actress....


Some perspective on the matter of media tretment of white women in peril:


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Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on October 30, 2014 at 11:33am

spot on   

Comment by nerd cred on October 30, 2014 at 12:48pm

Are you suggesting that the fact that the woman is a actor makes the video less authentic? From what I've seen of her on TV that doesn't seem to be the case. Rather, this is an actual problem for her.

Again on something on TV it was said that while the offenders were proportionally white as well as non-, somehow the white guys just didn't get in the picture as often as non-whites. To which I reacted, "huh?" and think it was probably racist, yes, to make the depiction as non-white as it is.

The other part - "white women in peril," I've been saying that for years. I might phrase it as "cute blond white women in peril."

As a woman who is larger than the beauty standard, more muscular even when I wasn't fat, not so cute even when I was young, unable to wear contact lenses and blind as a bat so always spectacled, not particularly inclined to dress in ways that men find attractive (I LIKE baggy and HATE having my clothes touch me more than they absolutely have to and have thought high heels ARE evil instruments of torture since I got my first pair at 13) I have never had problems with catcalling. That may be why I include the "cute blond" in my expression of the peril phenomenon.

And we're not the only ones who've noticed this:




Comment by Ron Powell on October 30, 2014 at 1:39pm
@NC; You make my case quite well...

The fact that the woman in the video is an actress doesn't alter the fact that the treatment was offensive, even threatening.

It does, however, suggest that she was chosen for her appearance, and dressed in a manner that would induce or 'invite' the
inappropriate and offensive reactions and responses shown in the video.

This was not a random or spontaneous occurrence, 'caught on camera' by an innocent victim...
This incident was staged to produce the maximum desired effect...

Thanks for looking in and commenting...

Thanks for providing links to additional materials....
Comment by Ron Powell on October 30, 2014 at 2:15pm
How can we forget the imagery and visceral reactions to this 'white woman in distress' because she's being threatened by a black man:

Comment by nerd cred on October 30, 2014 at 3:08pm

Your first comment, don't know if I agree. The question is, should women have to dress like me to avoid this sort of thing? I think not. She wasn't dressed particularly seductively, clothes just snug but that's the way the kids these days ... And she's beautiful in a sort of ordinary way, I think. Not terribly unusual. Many women identify with this video, saying it happens with that kind of frequency. And it's NYC where people can be outspoken.

What I think it reflects accurately is that, without even realizing it, many men regard women as objects for their satisfaction. The men who tell strange women they should smile, (come to think of it, that's happened to me,) they might be surprised to hear that interpretation, that it objectifies women. The probably don't do it intentionally and wouldn't like to think of themselves as having such an attitude.

There's a similarity to racism in that respect, I think. Aspects of racism are so endemic that people espousing the attitudes really don't recognize them as racist. As a poor white person who's always struggled might have trouble understanding white privilege, especially when he's well aware of the Obama's - I think they give off a pretty aristo vibe, myself - as in "high class" - and wealthy sports and entertainment figures, if he lives in a very white world and these are the people of color he encounters. He can espouse racist stereotypes and attitudes without any animosity or realization of their offensiveness. There are still huge swaths of this country where white people do not encounter non-white people on a daily basis.

(To understand is not to defend.)

And so with men and women - the men may believe they're complimenting the woman. But her appearance is not there to titillate or entertain them. They have no damn business telling her to smile. For all they know her dog just died. They're not thinking of her but of what they get out of her. They make her an object for their pleasure, no matter how passing.

I've never understood the fear this inspires in women who complain about it until I saw the couple of guys who just walk alongside her, talking to her, asking for her number. That's creepy. I felt fearful just watching it and I don't get scared easy.

I left the following comment on the hollaback website: [link]

It is offensive that most of the offending men in the video are of color. I believe heard Shoshanna say on tv that it's just that "for some reason" white men didn't show up on the video as well. This makes it understandable that some believe the message is muddied by the appearance of racism. I believe all women experience this treatment regardless of race and I'd like to see the same experiment done with a comparably beautiful black woman. It would at the very least demonstrate good faith from a race standpoint.

Not very well stated but by now I'm rushing.

Your second comment, Race aside, this sort of thing makes me question the very concept of democracy. [#whitepeopledumbasshit]

Comment by Ron Powell on October 30, 2014 at 6:28pm
@NC; If you delve into the background of the video and listen to the commentary, you may discover that there is a bit more there than the disrespectful "catcalling"...Which, as I have said is, in and of itself, abhorrent....

The video was 'produced', ostensibly to shed light on a social ill...But, that should never be done by exacerbating another social ill...

It would be like me calling certain women "bitches" to show /prove that they're racists....

Then, there's the media's willingness to add insult to the injury of racially biased and inflammatory reporting....

Black men have been murdered for simply being accused of much less than what is shown in the footage being aired and discussed on national TV....
Comment by nerd cred on October 30, 2014 at 7:40pm

Got it. I think.  What did you think of what I said to hollaback? (Aware I may be out of touch.)

Comment by Ron Powell on October 30, 2014 at 8:23pm
@NC; Re your "hollaback" comment..Well stated....
Comment by nerd cred on October 31, 2014 at 7:45pm

On Chris Hayes' show tonight he said he hadn't shown this video before now because of the "racial politics" of the thing. He quoted the producer saying, "'We got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera,' or was ruined by a siren or other noise. The final product is not a perfect representation of what happened." Quoted hollaback as regretting the unintended racial bias in the video that over represents men of color."

Then he had Brittany Cooper, a black professor of Women's and Gender Studies, and Africana Studies at Rutgers and co-founder of the Crunk Feminist Colective. She said, I am really tired of men, particularly men of color using racism as an excuse for sexism."

Conundrum? I'd be interested to hear what you think of this, Ron. It took me awhile but I've grown to like Cooper & her thinking. At first I thought she was a little rigid and single faceted. She writes on Salon.com, if you haven't seen her.

Trying to embed the video.

Comment by nerd cred on October 31, 2014 at 7:45pm

Don't think the embed worked.

It's here [link]


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