united david dao excessive force situation + the US police state

hi all, it was not a pretty picture (to say the least, honestly, it was outrageous) with bloody david dao dragged off an airplane in full view of social media. he is said to have concussion, lost teeth, and needed surgery. united refunded all passengers. the airline released a statement about "reaccommodating" the passengers. it looks like our entire country got "reaccommodated" the last decade or so esp after 911. and isnt it "fortunate" for us all some passengers were around to film the whole thing and turn it into an international incident, without the police or airline confiscating their cell phones.

ok, dont think this is a one-sided story. he seems to have an authority problem. contrary to all the ranting elsewhere, think no passenger has a "right" to fly on an airplane. if the police come for you, be happy to take the $800 and walk off peacefully. the word is "cooperation". sometimes the only cooperation is to accede to authority.

hey, theres a long history here. in the 1980s there was a lot of anger against criminals. they were the Enemy/ Scapegoat du Jour. sort of like immigrants/ muslims/ mexicans/ chinese (or whatever) today. its always a moving target. anyway Reagan seemed to begin a "get tough/ crackdown on crime" posture that helped get him elected, and the public seemed to approve. heavyhanded tactics were in. harsher sentences.

now our jails are crammed, the largest in the world, and its costs massive $$$ ... its a huge boondoggle for private industry. have blogged on this years ago, but hey, it just keeps getting better as they say.

anyway its a moment to unload all my recent links on the subj. a cyber candle in the darkness, or a blog post in the ocean.

United promises they arent gonna call the police again to remove unruly passengers. yeah right! look, its a systemic problem. we live in a police state and the police show up all the time. a little )( PR statement from a multibilliondollar corp is not gonna change it all that soon.

it does seem like some positive way of looking at this is that in the cyber age, the Police State has to constantly watch its back, and cannot get away with unmitigated brutality... "as much"...

am still waiting for the pendulum to swing some other way. obamas Justice dept announcement that they would end private prison system was a rather incredible moment, verging on coup, but will have to see how it plays out; not sure if it will really "stick"/ materialize Under New Management as they say. this is one of those Very Long Pendulums. as in—maybe will see it go some other direction before dying. or maybe not.

hope to hear from you on your own opinions on all this.

a. force/ overreaction/ overreach
  • 1. David Dao, Dragged United Passenger, Suffered Broken Nose, Missing Teeth, Lawyer Says | The Huffington Post
  • 2. Flying the Bloody Skies | Alternet
  • 3. Unlike Walter Scott's Horrific Killing, Deaths By Police Are Rarely Recorded -- They're Not Even Counted by the Government | Alternet
  • 4. The Murder of an Unarmed Black Man By a South Carolina Cop Is Part of a Long, Sick American Tradition | Alternet
  • 5. How Will White Conservatives Defend the Killer Cop Who Shot Walter Scott? | Alternet
  • 6. Media Had Already Bought Police's Fantasy Version of Walter Scott Killing Before Video Surfaced | Alternet
  • 7. 10 Years Before Freddie Gray, Baltimore Police ‘Accidentally’ Snapped a Perp’s Spine - The Daily Beast
  • 8. How a SWAT Team Upended My Baby’s Life — and Got Away with It | Alternet
  • 9. Police's Aggressive Use of Flashbangs Has Yielded Tragic Results | Alternet
  • 10. Why Police Brutality Is So Hard to End—And What It Will Take to Stop It | Alternet
  • 11. The Killing of Unarmed Black Men Is Hurting America’s Image Abroad - The Daily Beast
  • 12. 37 Years in Solitary Confinement and Even the State Can’t Explain Why - The Daily Beast
  • 13. Boulder cops declare ‘rock stacking’ a jailable offense to stop local artist who spent 7 years creating sculptures
  • 14. Bloodied UVa Student Martese Johnson Is Left to Ask: ‘How Did This Happen?’ - The Daily Beast
  • 15. Why Don't The Feds Prosecute Police Brutality Cases? | Alternet
  • 16. Long Beach police shoot, wound man after reports of trespassing, graffiti - LA Times
  • 17. The Police Are Still Out of Control - Frank Serpico - POLITICO Magazine
  • 18. The Overcriminalization of America - Charles G. Koch and Mark V. Holden - POLITICO Magazine
  • 19. Online ‘Swatting’ Becomes a Hazard for Popular Video Gamers and Police Responders - NYTimes.com
  • 20. Torture and Police Killings Cut From the Same Cloth of Injustice | Will Bunch
  • 21. » Illinois judge rules police entitled to Swat raid over parody Twitter account Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 22. The Art of Running from the Police : Longreads Blog
  • 23. UN Condemns U.S. Police Brutality, Calls For 'Stand Your Ground' Review
  • 24. We're Spending Billions to Support the Most Corrupt, Abusive Arm of Law Enforcement | Alternet
b. search/ seizure
  • 1. Could You Be the Next Innocent American to Have Your Bank Account Seized by the Government? | Alternet
  • 2. Law Lets I.R.S. Seize Accounts on Suspicion, No Crime Required - NYTimes.com
  • 3. DEA regularly mines Americans' travel records to seize millions in cash
  • 4. Baton Rouge Police Took Alton Sterling Surveillance Video Without a Warrant or Permission - The Daily Beast
  • 5. Facebook ‘glitch’ that deleted the Philando Castile shooting vid: It was the police – sources • The Register
c. school
  • 1. » School Cops Across Texas Receiving Surplus Military Gear Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 2. » San Diego School Police Given Mine-Resistant Military Vehicle By Pentagon Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 3. Why Does My Kids’ Elementary School Need a Tank? - The Daily Beast
  • 4. Can Killer Drones Stop School Shootings? - The Daily Beast
  • 5. California School Cops Received Military Rifles, Grenade Launchers, Armored Vehicles
  • 6. This Is What Happens When We Lock Children in Solitary Confinement | Mother Jones
d. militarized
  • 1. American cops borrow armored vehicles from the military that can withstand mine blasts to combat cannabis amid fears they are turning cities into war zones | Daily Mail Online
  • 2. How Militarized Police Are Turning American Communities Into War Zones, Death by Death | Alternet
  • 3. Police Are Using Tragedies in Dallas and Orlando to Demand More Militarized Weapons | Alternet
  • 4. Shocker: Military Insiders and War Profiteers Will Be Reviewing the Horrendous Private Immigration Prisons for Homeland Security | Alternet
  • 5. Police Continue Militarization Amid Disarmament of Citizens
  • 6. WATCH: Stephen Colbert's Brilliant Takedown of Police Militarization | Alternet
  • 7. Shocking: Obama to Disarm – Demilitarize Police | Veterans Today
  • 8. The Making of the Warrior Cop | Mother Jones
  • 9. Oops! Police Claim They Have 'No Idea' Where Those Military-Grade Guns Are | Alternet
  • 10. Military hardware still flowing to local police after Ferguson - Washington Times
e. protest
  • 1. » U.S. Army Report Urges Preparations For Troops to Occupy NYC, Other “Megacities” Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 2. Hard to Believe: Police are Treating Protest Movements Like They are Terrorists | Alternet
  • 3. Police's Latest Horrifying Anti-Protest Weapon | Alternet
  • 4. » Why The Banking Elite Want Riots in America Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 5. » Document: Army Preparing to Use Lethal Force Against “Unarmed Civilians” During “Full Scale Riots” in U.S. Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 6. Police-Provoked Violence At Protests Is As Predictable As It Is Avoidable, New Research Finds | Alternet
  • 7. Occupy Wall Street protesters arrested for giving the middle finger to New York cops | Daily Mail Online
  • 8. ARMED Texas vigilantes with cameras confronting police on the street | Daily Mail Online
f. prison
  • 1. In America, mass incarceration has caused more crime than it’s prevented - Quartz
  • 2. My Four Months as a Private Prison Guard: A Mother Jones Investigation | Mother Jones
  • 3. Immigration Officials Making Secret Deals With Private Prisons to Lock Up More Mothers and Children | Alternet
  • 4. What You Need to Know About the DOJ's Claim It Is Ending Private Prisons | Alternet
  • 5. What You Need to Know About the Private Prison Phase-Out | Alternet
  • 6. Is This the Beginning of the End for the Private Prison Industry? | Alternet
  • 7. There's a Monster Loophole in the Feds' Move to Stop Working With Private Prisons | Alternet
  • 8. The Full Cost Of Incarceration In The U.S. Is Over $1 Trillion, Study Finds | Huffington Post
  • 9. [Report] | Captive Market, by Michael Ames | Harper's Magazine
g. police state
  • 1. America's Authoritarian Police Violently Enforce 1%'s Rule | Alternet
  • 2. America Has Become One Giant Prison | Alternet
  • 3. » The Police State Is Upon Us Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 4. The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site' | US news | The Guardian
  • 5. 9 Events Which Created the Environment for America's Emerging Police State | Alternet
  • 6. Feds balk at court’s order to explain no-fly list selection process | Ars Technica
  • 7. Copspeak: 7 Ways Journalists Use Police Jargon to Obscure the Truth | Alternet
  • 8. Donald Trump's Coming Police State: We Have a President Who Wants Unlimited Power and Won't Respect the Rule of Law | Alternet
  • 9. How Oakland Almost Became an Orwellian Surveillance City—and Citizens Stopped It From Happening | Alternet
  • 10. Is America a Police State? For Many, Yes - The Daily Beast
  • 11. Eyes Over Compton: How Police Spied on a Whole City - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic
  • 12. » Former Philly Police Captain: Cops Are Mercenaries for Corporations Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 13. The Truth About Who Is Really Responsible for Our Current Police and Prison State | Alternet
  • 14. The True History of the Origins of Police -- Protecting and Serving the Masters of Society | Alternet
  • 15. How the Local Police State is Caused by the Federal Government | Tenth Amendment Center
  • 16. » TSA Demands Internal Passport for Domestic Travel Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! 

Views: 129

Comment by nanatehay on April 14, 2017 at 12:00am

"am still waiting for the pendulum to swing some other way. obamas Justice dept announcement that they would end private prison system was a rather incredible moment, verging on coup, but will have to see how it plays out; not sure if it will really "stick"/ materialize Under New Management as they say. this is one of those Very Long Pendulums. as in—maybe will see it go some other direction before dying. or maybe not."

It seems unlikely we'll be seeing a de-privatization of our prison systems anytime soon. The reason for that is the usual, quite simple one - money. In a for-profit system, be that a health care, prison or military-industrial system, all the incentives are toward finding ways to rig things to increase profit, not toward finding ways to provide better health care or to create truly better weapons platforms or to keep from having to imprison more and more of our citizens for violations which 20 or 30 years ago wouldn't have been punished with incarceration. I'm not sure what the exact figure is, it probably varies depending on location and type of facility, but let's say for the sake of discussion here that it costs $40,000 per annum to keep someone locked up. Multiply that by 10s or 100s of thousands of inmates and you're talking big money, and since the lure of big money breeds lobbyists like a dead possum breeds maggots, and since the majority of elected officials in Washington and the various state capitals and city/county governments nationwide are, on average, as crooked as a snake crawling up a hogwire fence, there's just not a lot of motivation out there to go back to a non-profit prison system. 

Comment by nanatehay on April 14, 2017 at 1:12am

Wikipedia says -

According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS),2,220,300 adults were incarcerated in US federal and state prisons and county jails in 2013 – about 0.91% of adults (1 in 110) in the U.S. resident population. Additionally, 4,751,400 adults in 2013 (1 in 51) were on probation or on parole.


That adds up to a lot of benjamins, especially when you add in the millions of people on probation and parole, each and every one of whom require the annual expenditure of pretty decent amounts of money to oversee. Of course, not every detention facility and parole office out there is run by and for the benefit of private companies, but enough of 'em are, and the amount of taxpayers' money spent annually to incarcerate our fellow citizens is so huge, that it seems far more likely we're going to see more privatization of our federal, state and local prison systems in coming years rather than less. Welcome to Police State Incorporated.

Comment by vzn on April 17, 2017 at 3:01pm

thx N, a fascinating idea that capitalisms invisible hand is really optimizing for corporate profit, or taken to extremes, skullduggery. something that doesnt show up in economics textbooks much. although there is a concept of "rents". also have long mused, why does nobody use the word "cartel" any more? airlines consolodated into a cartel, media companies, health companies, telecom companies, etc... maybe should be renamed CartelLand...


You need to be a member of Our Salon to add comments!

Join Our Salon


Where Jaws was Filmed

Posted by J.P. Hart on June 18, 2019 at 11:19am 0 Comments

I’m Not A Buddhist

Posted by Robert B. James on June 18, 2019 at 7:42am 1 Comment

2 Questions for Kosh and Jon

Posted by Ron Powell on June 18, 2019 at 2:30am 2 Comments

Greeting of the Day

Posted by Ron Powell on June 16, 2019 at 10:08am 0 Comments

Go Big or Go Home

Posted by Ron Powell on June 16, 2019 at 9:30am 2 Comments

Waiting And Seeing

Posted by Robert B. James on June 16, 2019 at 7:29am 1 Comment

© 2019   Created by lorianne.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Service