To those of you who deign to grow weary of my posts on racism and choose to refrain from comment and remain silent:

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Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on June 20, 2018 at 5:34am

If "hope" and "never being silent" is annoying and "tiresome" to people I'm glad... that means an impact is being made.

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Comment by Ron Powell on June 20, 2018 at 5:56am

Now he's talking about infestation...

Dehumanization and stereotyping the people seeking asylum here by referring to them as though they were insects or vermin...

What's next?  EXTERMINATION?

Does that sound familiar to you, or are you "weary" of me being desirous of avoiding another holocaust re Black and Brown people or the return of slavery and Jim Crow?

Of course you know where this all leads. Virtually every person here knows.

Let's all wait until we get 'there' before we speak up and speak out shall we...

That would be much less tedious for those of you who are not directly threatened by the policies and behaviors of this administration...

The Emancipation Proclamation was an executive order issued by Lincoln.

Suppose Trump decides to rescind it....

Sessions would then declare the 13th, 14, and 15th Amendments moot and null and void...

Then what?!

Hello, police, I'd like to report people being free while black. They think they have rights and are becoming arrogant and condescending...

I'm offended, please send somebody to shut them up and get them out of here immediately...

Comment by koshersalaami on June 20, 2018 at 6:10am

No one owes you a response to your posts, nor is whether anyone responds to your posts a litmus test in that a decision to refrain from commenting on your posts does not inevitably indicate disagreement with your overall point. There are other reasons to refrain from commenting and, in this environment, they do not typically include fear of being seen as anti-racist. This site is ideologically very homogenous. Our differences look big to us sometimes because we argue either about them or, more typically, about our relative approaches to them, but to most people really looking at us we would look, accurately, like a liberal community with one conservative mouthpiece (except when Token shows up, which is when conservativism gets more nuanced). You don’t exist here in the equivalent of Dr. King’s world. 

How many of Dicky Neely’s posts have you disagreed with? How many of them have long threads? 

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on June 20, 2018 at 6:35am

How very AIPAC-ish of you to say all of that bullshit, KB.  Could it be that your "silence" is because if you speak up against the incarceration of one group of POC you then would be looked at as hypocritical assholes when you encourage the incarceration of others?

Comment by Rodney Roe on June 20, 2018 at 8:24am

I get your point, but I am conflicted.  If I loved ducks and every post was about ducks I would only expect other duck lovers to read and respond, if so moved.

But, I know this is about implicit (unconscious) bias.  Educating people about their biases is a good thing.  Hopefully, the biases will become conscious (explicit) and the person will have to deal with them. 

People with explicit biases like racism are not very amenable to change, I've found.  For some reason they are entrenched in their views. 

It may be due to privilege - like white privilege - that results from racist policies.  If so, most people are unaware that they even have such privilege.

People who are amenable to change and who have been made aware of their biases will have changed as much as is possible.  Should they be made to be activists against racism in others?  Perhaps, but shaming is not an efficient way to gain that end. 

It won't work at all against racists, and it angers the rest.

Personally, I have attempted to educate myself about my own unconscious biases, correct, self-examine and correct again always aiming for fairness and justice.  That's all I feel I can do, and I can't change the color of my skin (although I would have preferred a little more pigment and fewer skin cancers.)

If I were you I would be perpetually angry, and I don't imagine any amount of ranting would have made me feel less so.

Comment by alsoknownas on June 20, 2018 at 8:40am

I do comment, but then later without provocation can count on being singled out as having grossly missed the point of how to be progressive.

Not by you Ron, but you always look the other way when it happens.

It's a regular thing. It happened the other day without my commenting at all.

So yes, sometimes the post streams turn into nothing more than rude, crude, vulgar rants wherein those who do agree with you cannot expect to be in a discussion without being attacked.

What's the point?

I preferred Rodney's response to my own.

Comment by marshall bjohnson on June 20, 2018 at 1:20pm

https://www.otherpress.com/books/my-brother-moochie/

ttps://journalism.nyu.edu/publishing/archives/portfolio/books/book379.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxUOxZ56OIU

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/57925.Assata_Shakur

just a few good sources for underrepresented voices...

Comment by Ron Powell on June 21, 2018 at 6:47am

@AKA; "...but you always look the other way when it happens...."

I intervene when the name calling and gratuitous profanity go beyond the bounds of civil discourse. I don't tolerate or countenance such nonsense...

Having said that, I believe that these conversations must occur between white people with as little intercession from folks like me as possible.....

I see myy roll as stimulating thoughtful discussion and debate by providing a perspective with which you may not be familiar or with which you might not agree.

A black man's perspective which may or may not be THE black perspective.

I really don't need or expect you to comment for my benefit. However, it is essential that you interact with one another on these issues for your own edification and benefit....

What I do may seem like looking the other way during overheated exchanges but I believe it requires that you improve your analytical and rhetorical skills.

It is my hope that you can take the argument and make the case in places where I can't be and in forums where I would be reflexively ignored...

It is in this regard that I am thankful to all of you who read my posts and take the time to post a comment....

Comment by Ron Powell on June 21, 2018 at 7:05am

@Kosh; You're right.

Nobody owes me anything.

You do, however, owe frequent and continuous thoughtful commentary, discussion, and debate on these issues to yourselves as individuals and as a community...

If you see yourselves as proactive liberals and progressives, silence is not an option.

Comment by Ron Powell on June 21, 2018 at 7:12am

@RR; I see myy roll as stimulating thoughtful discussion and debate by providing a perspective with which you may not be familiar or with which you might not agree.

A black man's perspective which may or may not be THE black perspective.

However, it is essential that you interact with one another on these issues for your own edification and benefit....

It is my hope that you can take the argument and make the case in places where I can't be and in forums where I would be reflexively ignored...

It is in this regard that I am thankful to all of you who read my posts and take the time to think and post a comment....

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