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I did a lot of reading yesterday.

I read everything from "the Republicans support the anti-Christ" to "the Democrats ARE anti-Christ" to the rhetorical "the Greens are not our liberal allies".

Ninety-nine percent of what I read was a load of tosh. 

The gist of all of it was "it is our victory if we win" (so your voices don't count) or "It is your fault we lost" (so your voices don't count).

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Whoever said whatever, it simply boiled down to "WE" refused to compromise with "THEM" and, therefore, any result either marginalized or blamed "US"

Funny how we are so all powerful while not being important enough to acknowledge, huh? 

That alone should make you smell a great, big rotting rat.

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I also find it "odd" that any "compromising" needs to be done by "US".   

The leadership of both parties haven't and will not budge an inch in our direction even when it means their own defeat. 

It is always "US" who have to "compromise" to "reach common ground".

Here's the "oddest" (but not surprising) thing. 

They categorically refuse to "compromise" in our direction, because they know once everyone becomes aware that their issues actually can be acknowledged and worked towards, the current elitists will be kicked out the door faster than the speed of light.  

Isn't it interesting who they WILL "compromise" with, though? 

That should tell you that they are REALLY coming from the exact same place.

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Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on November 8, 2018 at 7:17am

BTW, I'm still wondering how the Democrats are going to blame the Green Party for their loss to a dead pimp in Nevada.  

Dead pimps apparently are wildly more trustworthy and believable than Democrats because he won with 68.3 percent of the vote! 

 https://nypost.com/2018/11/07/dead-brothel-owner-dennis-hof-wins-ne...

Comment by Ron Powell on November 8, 2018 at 7:31am

Amy, that would be way sad if it weren't so funny...

Or should it be the other way around:

That would be way funny if it weren't so sad...

I have a question for you:

If you would agree that politics is, at least in part, the art of compromise, what would be your preference in a candidate or a position:

Ideological purity or political practicality?

The obvious presumption here is that the concepts are mutually exclusive.

If you can find and navigate your way around that, you may take your place at the head of any class I've ever taught and prepare yourself for a serious run at an elective office, wherever you are, with my full support...

Comment by Maui Surfer on November 8, 2018 at 8:18am

Nice work in Arizona Greens!

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on November 8, 2018 at 8:28am

Ron, without a doubt I'd go for "Ideological purity".  That, of course, is as long as the "Ideology" aligns with my own beliefs.

To me, "political practicality" is the art of being a successful whore. 

For example, Trump exemplifies "political practicality".  He was a Democrat and Clinton confidant for most of his adult life, THEN he because a rabid Republican solely due to "political practicality".

Now, let me ask you a question:  

If you would agree that politics is, at least in part, the art of compromise, what would be your preference in a candidate or a position:

Ideological purity against racism, discrimination & prejudice for all or political practicality where they would give tacit approval to racist/discriminatory policies against some in exchange for eliminating them for another "favored" group?

That is a rhetorical question, obviously, because I believe I know your answer, but it sure highlights how "evil" compromise can be.

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on November 8, 2018 at 8:34am

Nice work in Arizona Greens!

THANKS!  It's always encouraging when "Brand A" gets beaten by "Brand a" because people are sick of "more of the same shit" flavor they both promote.  

BTW, if you waiting for me to feel bad about people actually having a voice for a change then you best find a seat because you will have one hell of a long wait.

Comment by Ron Powell on November 8, 2018 at 9:47am

"Ideological purity against racism, discrimination & prejudice for all or political practicality where they would give tacit approval to racist/discriminatory policies against some in exchange for eliminating them for another "favored" group?"

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere?" ----MLK

While there are ideologies that stand in opposition to each other, there are no "negative" ideologies as such...

"An ideology is a collection of normativebeliefs and values that an individual or group holds for other than purely epistemicreasons.[1]

The term was coined by Antoine Destutt de Tracy in 1796, who conceived it as the "science of ideas". In contemporary philosophy it is narrower in scope than that original concept, or the ideas expressed in broad concepts such as worldview, imaginaryand ontology.[2]

In the political world, for instance, there are many well-known political ideologies, which cover a wide range of human interests.

In the modern Althusserian sense, ideology is "the imagined existence (or idea) of things as it relates to the real conditions of existence" "

------Wikipedia

There is a distinction to be made between one's principles and one's ideological holdings.

I wouldn't compromise on my principles as the moral and ethical underpinnings of who and what I am as a person and as an individual. 

However, ideologically speaking, we all grow, develop, and undergo change at various times and stages of our careers and our lives...

This is true to the extent that none of us are truly ideological purists especially since many ideologies are eclectic or composits in essence....

As social beings we have existed, survived, and evolved due in no small measure to our ability to adapt and adjust to our physical and social circumstances and environments...

Political ideologies undergo changes that are necessary and appropriate for the times and circumstances in which they operate and function....

This may not be , and should not be, as easily said of our principles....

Our sense of good and evil, right and wrong, just and unjust, though not completely immutable are less susceptible to the exigencies and expediencies of the moment to moment ebb and flow of our daily existence...

If you can hold fast to your principles while modifying your ideologies as necessary or required you are indeed an exceptional human being.

All too often our politicians are called upon to compromise themselves and their principles for the sake of political or ideological expediency and convenience.

Too many of them see such situations as matters of impossible dilemma and yield to the impulse and temptation of hypocrisy....

You don't,  and you apparently won't be that politician, but you can be an exceptional person...

It will occur when you realize that your values needn't change because you modify your views of the world to accommodate and make room for differing views...Even as you argue against those views and positions you see as diametrically opposed to your own...

Freedom of speech and freedom of thought applies to all...even those with whom you vehemently disagree...

Freedom of speech and freedom of thought gives each of us the opportunity to change the other person's mind and the responsibility and obligation to change our own when fact and truth call upon us to do so....

Comment by Maui Surfer on November 8, 2018 at 7:39pm

Keep that in mind SBA, while you watch the Nation disintegrate faster and faster now that the Confederate Yankee is scared to death. And, being Green in Arizona, whose non indigenous population only exists due to the diversion of the Grand Colorado River, is fucking hilarious as it is ironic. You and your ninnies brought us Trump, and Shrub before him, now, eat your own pie.

Comment by Maui Surfer on November 9, 2018 at 8:56am

And, if you want to see Greens in action, supported by an actual population, come visit us!

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