Woody Allen once summed up the behaviors and qualifications of most people with this simple bit of logic: “Those who can, do. Those who can’t do, teach. Those who can’t teach, teach gym…” to which I would add, “…Those who can’t teach gym, find careers in administration.”
This last week there have been a few comment string dust ups on several posts here on Our Salon with several folks suggesting that other folks don’t have the intelligence or experience to hold a valid opinion about much of anything. Some have expressed opinions that white folks are somehow directly responsible for excessive (brutal) police violence (abuse) on children (high school students) of color (black, brown, white and other). Others convey opinions that most white folk are hard working benign bystanders and almost all uses of force by law enforcement and school administration can be justified responses to “disrespectful” or “threatening” behaviors and are necessary to maintain discipline and teach “these kids” a lesson. A quick sample of commentary (in no particular order or context) reveals the breadth of these opinions:
[Who]…would have imagined that in late 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation would be doing its thing in connection with a routine exercise in classroom discipline occurring this week in South Carolina?
Many here are early bandwagon jumpers, based on partial information and their own bias. Some called those of us warning that the Trayvon Martin encounter might have multiple dimensions "idiots" because we "obviously" were blind to what could easily be deduced from the early news reports. Not sure if the same is going on here, but I'm comfortable letting things play out without passing early judgment.
When, oh when, will you white people put a stop to this shit?!
One youngster, a black girl, was being disobedient/defiant. The other, a Muslim boy, who manifested youthful curiosity and scientific ingenuity were each treated in a manner that would be absolutely unthinkable had either been a white student....
It was brought out the Muslim clock boy's father is a highly controversial sensationalist Islamic Iman who more than likely coached the boy to bring the bomb clock to school to evoke controversy and open up possibility for lawsuit. Yes, I believe that's exactly what they planned… One should look to the end game for what an ideology or religion is trying to achieve. End game of Buddhism? To pass into parinirvana while leading a low impact calm and peaceful life. End game of Islam? To subjugate the world at knife point and ride off in glory with a harem of wives.
BTW: There is every strain of media BS in this world, including "proof" that the 9-11 tragedy of the World Trade Center was an inside job perpetrated by Zionist Jews in coordination with the Bush Administration. You're making no sense with Islamic conspiracy theory here. After visiting the White House as part of 300 visitors to “Astronomy Night” and meeting with President Obama and his family, Ahmed Mohamed and his family are on their way to Qatar where he has a full boat scholarship with the Qatar Foundation Young Innovators Program.
“I'm also sick of hearing about black people in America. I don't give a shit about black people in America.” And I am sick of you not giving a shit. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Find something else to do.
Safe Bet Amy is a just a pissed off lesbian who hates men and Israel. The rest of you are now focused on "Police Violence Against Citizens". Yeah right. Give me a fucking break. Y'all don't give a rat's ass about the police and how they treat people. Most of you have had no interaction with the police and wouldn't hesitate for a moment to call them when you're in need. You're fed the propaganda, and you just want something to bitch about...
"So fuck Jonathan Wolfman, Fuck Kosher Salammi, Fuck Safe Bet Amy and Fuck anyone talking about black people. If that's all this site is about...then I'm out."
I still see her resisting, and the cause for her desk toppling over. Then he got out of control and dragged her. I also totally don't think it had anything to do with her race. It had to do with the fact that her teacher called in the officer, to have her removed. His technique left something to be desired, but SHE was the cause of the altercation.
The point isn't who started the altercation. The point, the entire point, is how unjustified the cop was in how far he took it. If a guy drives twelve MPH over the limit, is pulled over, and the arresting officer shoots him for it, the appropriate response is not, "The guy shouldn't have been speeding."
The good old days had nothing to do with discipline and everything to do with neurotic dip shit adults who could barely find their butts with both hands yet demanded “respect for authority”. They were, for the most part, idiots who showed up forty hours a week to collect a check.
I had not thought about it much. I was raised in a strict German family. I was brought up to have respect for my elders, NO MATTER WHO THEY WERE. I was always told, "children are to be seen and not heard" as well. The question you answered is this: How did Hitler and the Nazis manage to totally take over a people, without as much as a peep out of them. It all goes back to what I said about respecting authority. Germans were taught always to have respect for authority. (I know, I had it drummed into me) You never questioned a leader. The leader ( Führer ) demanded uncompromising respect and obedience. People simply did as they were told! So I guess I see the point being made here, by all. It is perhaps also the reason I am so damned stubborn in my ways. I was brought up to believe the way I was raised, was the correct way. Maybe it wasn't.
nerd cred or which ever fat balding bastard you happen to be hiding behind your false avatar your response is a predictable regurgitation of anti-conservative rhetoric that relies on pointless allegations and opinion based upon ideology.
… and one my favorites:
Oh how precious. Here's where the "community" decides to collectively "Punish" the transgressor by the good old Amish practice of "ostracizing". It's hilarious, how my genius and your pettiness have somehow butted heads.
…this is one of my last contributions:
...or as Hannibal Lecter said:
I Blame Fakers?
Phony. no blame.
Just Be Honest?
Look at Self?
No go Loco?
Out of Here...
With all that said I invite everyone who reads and comments on this post to play a quick game of twenty some questions:
I doubt that there are very many OS folk of either gender or any political philosophy who could answer more than a half of these questions in the affirmative. My answer to all of them is: “Yes,” and so I have the benefit of some very visceral life experience to support my opinions. Keeping in mind my father’s observation that opinions are like assholes, everybody’s got one, I seldom presume to tell anyone, other than some perverse dismissive ideologue, to STFU. If I find anyone's opinion offensive I’m more likely to turn around and just walk away. Rather when I encounter people who are wrapped up around the axle with personal hubris, I tend to refer them to the older, mellower Kris Kristofferson. Try not to let all the references to Jesus get in the way and just listen to the words:
A bit of humble gratitude can some times lead to the grace that allows us to appreciate what we have experienced in life.
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