Stupid People Ain't Got No Reason To Live [update]

More than a few folks have excoriated your humble servant for the observation that Democrats are wasting their time trying to win back Orange Julius Caesar zealots. The reason is straightforward: those folks have reached escape velocity from the Real World. They choose to believe anything from the Right Wingnuts.

Finding mainstream pundits who've also thrown in the towel is like looking for hens' teeth. Found one today.

But the problem is not the Russians — it's us. We're getting played because too many Americans are ill equipped to perform the basic functions of citizenship. If the point of the Russian campaign, aided domestically by right-wing media, was to get people to think there is no such thing as knowable truth, the bad guys have won.

Call it the Roy Moore effect; the desire to return to the false notion of 19th century USofA as nearly Eden. It wasn't, for all but the very rich. And these yokels have bought into the Cut Cut Cut Tax plan as good for the 99%.

About the scariest reporting:

When NPR tweeted out sections of the Declaration of Independence last year, many people were outraged. They mistook Thomas Jefferson's fighting words for anti-Trump propaganda.

The bright spot, most non-Right Wingnuts say, were the election victories in Virginia and such. Well, may be. But keep this in mind:

Northam did best in the metropolitan areas of the state like Hampton Roads and Northern Virginia. These places also witnessed the greatest bump in turnout. Northern Virginia saw a 12 percent jump, and Hampton Roads' participation grew by 9 percent. Combined, these two places accounted for more than 50 percent of Tuesday's vote.

Two points: the only way to counter gerrymandering and voter suppression is way, way, way above average turnout, and recognize that the split in the USofA is city/rural not Red/Blue states. Orange Julius Caesar won because the city folk just didn't turn out in PA, MI, WI.

In these three Rust Belt states [Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin], plus Ohio, Trump turned out voters from rural counties, improved on Republican Mitt Romney's 2012 percentage of the vote in most counties and closed the gap in or won Democratic-leaning counties, according to a analysis of unofficial election results.

Will the cities really Resist suppression next year? One might infer that Orange Julius Caesar and the Congress think they've only got a few months left given their frenzy. By most measures, the Base is about 25% of the electorate. The remaining 75% should be enough to toss out these bums.

Nick Kristof weighs in today on the topic. So some quotes.

Yet if one looks at blue and red state populations as a whole, it's striking that conservatives champion "family values" even as red states have high rates of teenage births, divorce and prostitution. In contrast, people in blue states don't trumpet these family values but often seem to do a better job living them.

And David Leonhardt has the wooden stake in the heart of the vampires.

"The G.O.P.," Henry Olsen, a conservative policy expert, recently said, "really wants to do nothing other than cut taxes for businesspeople and the top bracket based on what can only be called religious devotion to supply-side theory."

So, who are these folks?

And most Americans realize that the tax plan is dreadful. Only 16 percent of adults said they thought the plan would reduce their own taxes, according to a Quinnipiac poll released last week.

Just farmers and hedge funders? Strange bedfellows, to be sure.

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Comment by koshersalaami on November 19, 2017 at 6:42am

We can't get the Right. We should be able to get the Middle. Not to argue that mobilizing the base is critical, of,course it is, but I wouldn't rely on that alone. 

The fact that Bernie was popular in the Middle says more is going on than just bigotry and general idiocy. 

Where I am most Likely to disagree with you is that people who vote Right don't have actual grievances that shouldn't be ignored. Ignoring those grievances, some of which are legitimate (like that the Left ignores that as a population), increases Right turnout and in some ways shortchanged a population. Rural poverty counts as much as urban poverty does. 

Comment by Ron Powell on November 19, 2017 at 7:07am

At the rate we're going, the majority of the population will be below the poverty line. 

Then all hell will break loose and the country will be dangerously close to becoming a police state. 

When you consider the fact that the rate of the "browning" of the country will accelerate and escalate exponentially, America can easily slip back into an apartheid regime....

One could easily argue that that’s precisely what the so-called ruling class is preparing to do...Become the privileged class in a racist apartheid police regime...

Comment by Robert Young on November 19, 2017 at 10:10am


"Where I am most Likely to disagree with you is that people who vote Right don't have actual grievances that shouldn't be ignored."

the point, of course, from the Left is that the only real answer to the Rust Belt's unemployed, uneducated, unskilled ejection from the Blue Collar Middle Class is Socialism:  the Damn Gummint pays them a living earnings like what they had when they had those Blue Collar Middle Class jobs.  nothing from the Right Wingnuts actually addresses the grievance.  at all.  in sum, Caesar has just been trolling them, with more success than He could possibly expected.  just look at that Middle Class "tax reform".

and, there'll be an update today.

Comment by Robert Young on November 19, 2017 at 10:21am


"Rural poverty counts as much as urban poverty does. "

well... there is a flaw in that argument.  rural areas are, mostly, in Right Wingnut run states, and it has been the shortchanging of education and healthcare and such that has kept the grievers in poverty.  and, they're mostly white, of course.  Kansas is just the most recent (and extreme) "experiment" with the state government supporting the rich.  at the Federal level, it is a fact that the net flows of moolah through DC is from Blue states to Red states, which use those funds to comfort their rich rather than help their poor.  stupid people keep voting for state government which grinds them under the boot heel.  if they can't figure that out, there's really not much that the Left can do to appeal to them.  whether the Left should then help them, should the Left gain control of DC fiscal policy?  at this point, I'm not inclined to do so any more.  they hated FDR, though he made great effort to help.  why keep helping multi-generational ingrates?

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Comment by J.P. Hart on November 19, 2017 at 10:50am

I read you guys!  And unseemly percentage of our gerrymandered politicians make the  John SP and Susy Q citizenry sound like ethics philosophers. Hey hey what'd know. Citizens United and Electoral College gotta go!  How many Fortune Hundred Corps. shell out parity amounts to both majors?

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Comment by Tom Cordle on November 19, 2017 at 9:17pm

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