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Comment by Ron Powell on February 17, 2017 at 5:03am

On the other hand, a quick look at the etymologies reveals the following:

"The word banana is thought to be of West African origin, possibly from the Wolof word 'banaana', and passed into English via Spanish or Portuguese".


We can see that the ananas and banana are not related because the etymologies of the words are so disparate .

One word, 'nanas', comes from the Tupi language of the original natives of what is now Brazil, South America, while the other word, 'banaana', comes from the Wolof language in what is now Senegal, Africa spoken natively by the Wolof people....



The  otigins of the words, the fruit,  and the people who originated them are an ocean apart.

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on February 17, 2017 at 5:19am

yeah   I got that. And...?

Comment by Terry McKenna on February 17, 2017 at 5:50am

English, unlike many other languages forms new words easily and has not formal authority to accept or reject new words so we English speakers could invent the visually appealing pineapple while all the rest relied on what scientists devised in their taxonomy.

Comment by nerd cred on February 17, 2017 at 6:21am

Sometimes I crack me up, too, tabg. Sometimes the world does!

Terry, languages have controlling authorities? Of course, I'd expect it for French, but others? Crazy world! 

Comment by Terry McKenna on February 17, 2017 at 6:28am

Certainly the French do.  I believe the Dutch and Spanish do as well.  And for the others, the Finns were not explorers in that era, so the fruit may have entered the language only via science.  During college, I had to proofread my brothers linguistics papers - he was studying for an MS in linguistics so  I spent 2 years reading his papers.  

Comment by Terry McKenna on February 17, 2017 at 6:39am

just out of curiosity, I searched on Wikipedia. here is their article. Looks like many languages have a controlling authority.

Comment by JMac1949 Today on February 17, 2017 at 7:37am

Wonder what the translation of rodeo is in all those languages.  R&L

Comment by Maui Surfer on February 17, 2017 at 10:32am

Maui for a Century produced the finest Hala-kahiki in the world. Really no ka oi. The cost of a good ol' US labor force did it in though, despite all that free stolen water, and now the mainland gets to eat second best- is there another lesson in this little microcosm of the Pacific?

Comment by koshersalaami on February 17, 2017 at 10:57am

Aha! Hala-kahiki is also not ananas. 

Comment by nerd cred on February 17, 2017 at 11:56am

Well that's all interesting, Maui and tabg. South America? Really.

Maui - even if not originating there, the history of pineapple in HI sounds interesting - including what you say about the cost of US labor. Relative to the cost of native Hawaiian labor you seem to mean. That raises the question of very low wages for natives.

Ron - thanks for all the background. I'm not going to be making any fancy bananas, though.


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