"...european royalty have been intermarrying for generations. I think even Philip is remotely related to Elizabeth in spite of the fact that hes Greek..."

Foolish Monkey at:


Ironically that's precisely how some will attempt to scrub the black off Meghan:



Harry and Meghan are cousins! Remarkable family tree dating back to 1480 reveals royal is related to his girlfriend


Don’t forget – Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are actually already related


They've been doing this kind of thing for centuries:

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Comment by Ron Powell on May 20, 2018 at 4:13pm

This post was inspired by FM'S comment on Wolfman's latest post:

"Bloody Pleased" 


Thanks to both of you....

Comment by Maui Surfer on May 20, 2018 at 5:15pm

Funny how people claim to not give a wink about the royals, yet somehow manage to follow anything they do. Well, it is hardly, despite the "Habsburg Jaw" a European specific tradition, and the reasons why are so obvious:

Most Polynesian societies prefered intrastatus marriages, varying from mere bonds between chiefly families to the extreme case of Hawaii, where special care was taken to select the nearest possible relative as a wife for a high chief. This was practiced to such an extent that it led to marriages between brothers and sisters, what Westerners describe as incest, a word which does not exist as such in the Hawaiian language. Thus what is dubbed “Hawaiian royal incest” (marriage between blood relatives of the first degree among the ali’i) appears as a unique case of intrastatus union in Polynesia. Practiced among the ali’i only, incestuous unions were considered with much respect. If the royal union bore fruit, the child would be of the highest kapu rank. His kapus would be equal to those of the gods. He was called divine, akua, and was considered a god. The most perfect and revered union was that of a full brother and sister of highest rank.

Comment by Ron Powell on May 20, 2018 at 5:20pm

"The most perfect and revered union was that of a full brother and sister of highest rank."

That’s in the ancient Royal Egyptian tradition as well....

Comment by Maui Surfer on May 20, 2018 at 5:26pm

Indeed it is, and with no known interaction between the two pretty much spells it out ...

Comment by koshersalaami on May 21, 2018 at 6:15am

Interesting that no one tried that with Obama. While crazies were yelling about his Kenyan loyalties, no one answered by looking at his ancestry from his mother’s side of the family, where his grandfather fought in WWII and thirteen of his ancestors fought in the American Revolution. 

The Royals are all about continuity. 

I wonder something else about the Royal reaction to Meghan’s ethnicity: Would they have reacted the same way if William had married her? A lot would have to happen for the succession of Meghan’s and Harry’s kids to the Throne. I’d like to think they’d have reacted the same way but I don’t know that for sure and I haven’t followed the British press to see if they discussed this. 

Comment by Maui Surfer on May 21, 2018 at 7:47am

Kosh, great points, a lot to consider for the honest thinker: yes, interesting.

Comment by Maui Surfer on May 21, 2018 at 7:49am

It would really be something if Sasha or Malia marries one of the Kawānanakoas (Hawaii's still existing Royal Family- now that would be something!)

Comment by Ron Powell on May 21, 2018 at 9:27am

@Kosh;  "Interesting that no one tried that with Obama.."

No, they did the opposite. Members of the very instutions that shoul,d have taken the lead on the issues, and individuals, includinr Trump, spent years trying to challenge his eligibility for the office, and  the legitimacy of  his Presidency.

Once it became apparent that the Queen had accepted Ms Markle and approved of the wedding g, elements of the media seem to have undertaken the task of down playing or obviating her African American heritage....

Comment by koshersalaami on May 21, 2018 at 11:57am

I think it would be pretty hard to watch that wedding and downplay her African American heritage. 

Comment by Ron Powell on May 21, 2018 at 12:23pm

No more difficult than watching a video of a police officer shooting an unarmed black man in the back and finding the officer innocent because he "feared for his life".

Some, not all, media will carry reports and stories that will tend toward downplaying or obviating MeghanMarkle's African American etnicity and heritage. 

Look at the linked sources of the headlines in this post...

Can you imagine what any of them would do with claims of kinship with the Royal Family or Shakespeare or Churchill by Meghan without the context of this wedding?


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