Repost of The Difference Between Republicans and Democrats In One Chart

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/4/13/1652795/-The-difference-b...

For what it's worth, this IS interesting.  Add in that violence is actually lessening and fewer civilians are now dying given the fact that Assad has all but won the civil war in Syria.  Why escalate a war when our purpose should be giving sanctuary to that bloody war's refugees so they are no longer sitting targets amongst fighting factions?  But, sadly that simple wee act of compassion is a challenge too high for this administration. 

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Comment by JMac1949 Today on April 15, 2017 at 11:18am

Either Democrats are unconscious or Republicans are schizophrenic... or both.  R&L

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on April 15, 2017 at 12:04pm

Uh, no...  you REALLY need to get better informed.

#1) The very first sentence in the article you used is a lie.  It totally destroys any credibility the author may have had.  

#2.) you ain't got any more credibility when you spout crap like, "given the fact that Assad has all but won the civil war in Syria." unless your definition of "won" is getting over run by U.S., British, Saudi Arabian, Jordanian and Israeli supported factions which have all been brought into THEIR country from outside to foment civil war with the sole end game being the take over of Syrian land, natural resources and to give a previously disallowed route for an oil/gas pipeline.

syrian civil war map who controls what

Comment by MV Neland on April 15, 2017 at 3:38pm

Safe Bet Amy, to your first point -  Give us a reason why the author is incorrect about the interpretation of the polling results. This is an important topic imho and i'm interested.

To your second point -  of course ALL these factions, including the US, are fighting in Syria.  It has an enormous store of natural gas. It has the potential to effect world trade by preventing the export of Iraqi crude oil from its ports. It is a repressive regime and a death sentence, a threat or a yoke around the necks of many Syrians who do not support Assad. That is just a short list of the impact of Syria in the current world and on Syrians themselves. Assad was supported and tolerated by both East and West for Syria's usefulness.

But, I do argue that Assad is emerging the victor at this point in the civil war. I do not equate victor with "good" nor "right." But, just simply "victor."  The struggle for fairness, justice, and even the right to live may have to come from some other solution than open violent struggle.  Too many in the world still want Assad's success to insure their own success.  It may take many generations or a single year. I cannot possibly know. I can only hope and advocate for those somehow able to flee the conflict and continue to protest and agitate against my own government when it exploits their suffering or ignores it.

There were and are other means to open conflict than to join in the fight if there is the commitment and will.  But, what I agree with the author of the post about is the change in agreement by Republicans, that once their own president came into office, there has bern a sudden support for the use of US military intervention in Syria, especially as violence in Syria is decreasing merely because Assad feels that he is having to wage less of it given his near victory. That doesn't mean that this conflict ends entirely or that the reasons for the conflict have been resolved. Neither will be the case. But, will the US escalating this conflict protect Syrian civilians and keep them safe to allow them to struggle another day?  None of us has that answer.

Comment by MV Neland on April 15, 2017 at 3:40pm

JMAC 1949, that I do not know ;-)

Comment by MV Neland on April 15, 2017 at 4:56pm

Yes. The "fog of war."  And, without better facts, we will tend to accept the common wisdom or our allegiances and alignments...true or not. I believe the author, having read some of her previous posts, is coming from the best information she has found in good faith. 

Comment by Robert Young on April 15, 2017 at 6:52pm

-- The very first sentence in the article you used is a lie.

uh, no it's not.  Obambi presented the facts on the ground:  ~1,400 dead from sarin.  asked Congress for OK to use military.  they declined.  Orange Julius Caesar objected. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/16/syrian-chemical-attac...

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on April 15, 2017 at 7:37pm

Bobbo, linking a 3 year old article that has been disproved multiple times is kind of what I've come to expect of you.  As for Obama presenting "facts"???  LOLOLOLOL  

Comment by MV Neland on April 15, 2017 at 8:10pm

Ahem... folks, getting a little churlish now. If you'd like to engage on this thread...i humbly ask that we all imagine that the person we are about to respond to might actually be a decent human being of equal intellectual prowess. Fewer wars thst way. Yes?  No? 

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