Question for a Thursday Following Trump's Treasonous Remarks in Defense of Putin

If Trump is Putin's puppet, what does that make the people who voted for and continue to support him?

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Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on July 19, 2018 at 2:18pm

I'll worry about Russia doing EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR DECADES when we stop doing the exact same thing. 

Till then... Pot::Kettle

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Comment by moki ikom on July 19, 2018 at 3:06pm

If Hillary is a warmonger and a war criminal for her involvement in the Ukraine, Syria, Libya regime-changes then what does that make those who voted for and continue to support her?

Comment by Ron Powell on July 19, 2018 at 3:12pm

Amy, what's happening between Trump and Putin is waaay beyond election meddling...

Trump is toying with treason....

That said, you haven't responded to the question....

Please , by all means, take a crack at the question asked before making cracks about an altogether different matter....

Thanks...

Comment by Maui Surfer on July 19, 2018 at 3:31pm

Klan Members, plain and simple. Economic uncertainty my ass, after our former Black Hawaiian Fearless Leader grew the economy for 8 years running ... no, they are just Confederates, following, of all things, a Confederate Yankee. Robert E. Lee and J. Davis would be so proud to see them kowtow to a Yankee! It's enough to generate enough hate heat to melt a statue or two.

Comment by Maui Surfer on July 19, 2018 at 3:32pm

Also, once and for all, of course Hillary has been involved in global shenanigans- she is a former first lady for Dog's Sake! The question is, when will Putin distribute 13 million AIDS vaccines to dying people across Africa?

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on July 19, 2018 at 3:52pm

Please , by all means, take a crack at the question asked before making cracks about an altogether different matter....

Thanks...

Okay...  if you want to bring the snark out to play, I'm game... 

YOU obvious didn't "understand" my comment, Ron.  That might because you are trying your damnest to frame the responses to meet your preconceived answer that both Trump and anyone who voted for him is a traitor to this country and a "Russian puppet"... 

...but what the hell...  I'll try again...

Unless you do a LOT of reading from alternate news sources you are bombarded with a constant barrage of "Russia did" this-es and "Russia did that"-es.  That is ALL that you see in American newspapers, news web sites and a lot of what you see on television.  With the exception of Fox News, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM is framing questions to get the same response you are soliciting. (Fox is too, just in the other direction).

Why is that, you ask?  Well that would because the Corpocracy wants the money they make when they sell yellow journalism promoting war, Big Defense wants to sell lots of weapons and the GOP knows they are toast in 2018 unless something big changes, like an impeachment, etc.

The thing is, once again excluding the moronic Trump supporters who believe Fox News (which is FAAAAAAR from the majority of them), the aforementioned parties have drastically over played their hands and nobody that has the sense to look elsewhere is believing them.  

Now you add in people like George Soros' (and therefore a LOT of Democrats... to include good 'ol Hillary) support of the Nazis in the Ukraine (and make no bones about Soros) and you have Democrat's promoting WW III, Republicans promoting WW III, the MSM promoting WW III and a bunch of people who don't read alternate news sources and therefore consider the guy they voted for to be under attack by "socialists" feeling their "patriotism" promoting WWIII...

I have NO love of Putin, Trump, Republicans, Fox News, the "vested interests" Intelligence community or neocon Democrats...  I just can't get all bolloxed up over the horrible "Red Treat" or claims of "them evil damn Ruskies!!!" WHEN WE HAVE DONE MUCH WORSE FOR LONGER!

Comment by moki ikom on July 19, 2018 at 4:02pm

Ron, i don't know what you think about Ed Snowden but i'll presume you think he's not treasonous, or at least not a traitor even as he may not be a hero in your pov because he helped shine light on duplicitous, anti-democratic undertakings by u.s. intelligence agencies.  Of course it wasn't Trump himself who actually hacked into and  exposed the anti-democratic, election meddling duplicity of the DNC as it related to blackballing Hillary's major contender Sanders in the 2016 primaries, but for simplicity sake let's say Trump spearheaded the effort to expose DNC duplicity and succeeded in doing so, would you call him a traitor, treasonous for that, if so, why? If not, then of what of crime would you accuse him that would so serious as to make him (as you and others make Putin and Russians) out to be felonious, correctly portrayed by 'fake media's hyperbolically exagerated -to the point of being effectively false, thus witch-hunt- issue of russians meddling in our duopoly's 2016 election?  

I'd bet that the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson, any one of them alone funded more 2016 u.s. primary and general election meddling shenanigans, including targeted re-districting to favor Republican candidacies, than Russians have funded since the beginning of foreign (not including Israel) interests' meddlings in any and all  U.S. elections that have ever occurred.

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on July 19, 2018 at 4:09pm

MF,  why do you insist of giving Hillary sole credit for the work/cost reductions generated by companies such as Gilead & Becton Dickinson and the efforts of organizations like the NAACP, various United Nations agencies, the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief and UNITAID, not to mention numerous countries around the world?  

P.S.  "for Dog's Sake"...  Hillary only claims credit for "lower-costs".  Even as hubristic as she is, she doesn't claim to be responsible of anything other than that, much less "distribution" of anything.

Comment by Ron Powell on July 19, 2018 at 4:22pm

Amy; No president of this country or either of the major political parties has ever openly and quite publicly subjugated American interests to the interests of a foreign adversarial power....

Trump now stands in clear violation of his oath of office...

He is not standing to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.

AND

He is providing aid and comfort to and adversarial foreign power...

Your comparisons, while noteworthy, fall short of the mark because the question is not about what, or even whether, the Russians did anything. The question is about the nature of the relationship between Trump and Putin and the position that puts us in as a sovereign nation....

Comment by Ron Powell on July 19, 2018 at 4:25pm

Moki, I would tend to agree that we have more to be concerned about re the erosion and corrosion of our government and democratic principles from within than we do from enemies beyond our borders....

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