Protecting our ability to vote...Or not.

http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/more-russian-election-hacks-on-th...

Good, concise summary of what Russia hacked, including the recent revelations of voting machine manipulation, and where we are now that all Americans should understand imho.

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Comment by Ron Powell on June 19, 2017 at 4:45am

Comment by JMac1949 Today on June 19, 2017 at 6:51am

I doubt that the Ruskies had any real effect on the outcome.  HRC was the wrong candidate at the wrong time and her campaign was inept in that she took four states for granted and lost the electoral vote while winning the overall popular vote my nearly 3 million.

Comment by Ron Powell on June 19, 2017 at 7:23am

The debate re the question of whether Russian hackers influenced the outcome will go on ad infinitum snd ad nauseum.

I stated early on that there must be empirical proof that the Russians caused at least one vote to be altered or miscounted to put the validity of the entire election into question and doubt.

No such proof has surfaced or been discovered. 

Hillary and company must take full and complete responsibilty for the greatest election fuck up of all time....

Then they must shut the fuck uo and get the fuck out of the picture and out of the way....

"When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less."

-----Paul Brown

Comment by koshersalaami on June 20, 2017 at 1:38pm

Ron,

We may be looking in the wrong place. See this blogger's June 13 post

Comment by Ron Powell on June 20, 2017 at 2:12pm

@Kosh; Where's the link?

Comment by Ron Powell on June 20, 2017 at 2:14pm

@TM; Circumstantial evidence might be classified as "non emirical" proof.

Comment by JMac1949 Today on June 20, 2017 at 2:18pm

Proof provided outside the Emirates.

Comment by MV Neland on June 21, 2017 at 2:07am

Voter roll suppression is rarely counted toward "effecting the outcome of an election," nor is it prosecuted after-the-fact for a singular reason - let's say that as an election governor that i suppress ten thousand votes by removing voter names from the rolls using some excuse. Some of these voters get reinstated in time to have their ballot counted cuz some pesky judge said it's my job to do so. I happen to work real, real slow getting their names back on. Wouldn't want to make a mistake. So, i take my time. Maybe i get half reinstated by election day. I have demonstrated my good faith effort. I tried my best.  But, these things are complicated your honor.

Not a living soul can prove that the five thousand people who didn't get reinstated would have chosen one candidate over another. To do so is speculation. And, that's NOT voting. That's guessing. The election is over. Ya can't go around asking people how they would have voted had they had a chance and count their answer as a vote. Maybe they aren't being truthful and want to change their vote now they can see who won or lost. Buyer's remorse. Or, maybe they went out drinking and are lying when they declare that had they been able to vote, they would have gone to the polls instead of going to the bar. Pure speculation. Not a single "not yet cast" ballot will ever get counted NO MATTER THE REASON for it not being cast - whether the voter's fault or the election board's.  The vote doesn't exist and the voter's intentions are "unprovable." It's a perfect electioneering crime in the US taking advantage of election loopholes. Just a long tradition here when slaves were freed and black men got the vote. Some things change very slowly.

So, now we see that my candidate won becuz i made sure his opponent's supporters had a wee bit of trouble casting their ballots by removing their names from the rolls while i made an effort to put their names back on, tho never quite all. Nothing to see here. Move along. This very practice happened in several states in the 2016 election using the Cross Check software. It happened today in Georgia's 6th congressional district. I no more blame Ossof for Handel's use of the Cross Check software than Clinton for the many GOP election boards using this software in the Rustbelt, Arizona, Florida, and other states. It's cheating. It's never prosecuted or much of a big deal made of it cuz it happens to people of color voters. They are the targets and are likely Democratic voters. Now, Putin appears to have sent his hackers into over 32 US states accessing ONLY the voter data rolls. The voter rolls the GOP were busily purging. In ANY other country, this would be enuf to nullify the election, as it should. Apparently, in America, the candidate and supporters who get cheated are to blame. AIt's really no different than Wall St. Banksters defrauding moms and pops. Not a banker went to jail. Back in business with taxpayer money in the blink of an eye. Some crimes in America pay. THAT'S what Putin knows.

 

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