My Negative Muse Sends Me a Pat Buchanan E-Mail - I Reply

My Negative Muse, a Jewish woman in South Florida who I know from AOL Jewish chat and who hangs out with Conservatives down there, sent me the following e-mail:

This is the reason CNN has dropped Buchanan. It's like Newt G. said, "You are not supposed to bring up uncomfortable Facts." (verified on Buchanan’s website)

Finally...It is Said Publicly. I have never seen the white side explained better!
Pat Buchanan had the guts to say it. It is about time!!

By Patrick J. Buchanan

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to... This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances,
and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Jeremiah Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses
and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??

Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids...? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black
dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion
tax dollars ago. This needs to be passed around because, this is a message everyone needs to hear!!!

OK...........will you pass it on ?

YES. I did but will you?

Because I'm for a better America

I am
Not racist,
Not violent,

Just not silent anymore.
Since publishing this, I've been informed that this e-mail may not be recent. For my purposes, I'm less concerned by the date of the e-mail than I am that it is being forwarded around now and that people agree with it. Thanks to Antoinette Errante on Open Salon for the heads-up.
As you might imagine, I answered her. The rest of this post is my reply.
Thank you,
Is it White America's fault?

Mostly, yes.

Let's get two things straight first:

1. The contention that Blacks were rescued by White slave ships is beyond insane, and yet that is essentially what Buchanan is claiming here.
2. Humiliation matters more to people than freedom does. (Unless, perhaps, you're Jewish, because the humiliation doesn't get internalized so quickly in our case, because we're accustomed to being a minority, our religion helps us deal with being separate, and we always had skills that our host populations didn't, which meant we were demonized but people assumed we were capable. More on this later.) Humiliation is the best predictor of terrorism, just so you understand how major a factor it is. What do you think upsets Palestinians? Lack of freedom? Naah, that's our worry. What upsets them is humiliation, and it's exactly what upsets the rest of the Arab world on their behalf because their humiliation reflects on the rest of the Arab world. That's why we don't have peace in the Middle East. Really. Listen to your Aretha:  R E S P E C T. So, would these American Blacks all rather be here than having been born in Africa? Not necessarily.

So much for the preliminaries.

Why exactly do you think these statistical discrepancies exist?

Do you think it's because Black people are just inferior? Even if you thought so, it's not supportable. It's not supportable for three reasons (hey, when you talk to me, you get lists):

1. Race is too minor a factor in biology. When you control for everything else, it doesn't make enough of a difference to worry about. You might as well be worrying about height or eye color. That is, when you control for everything else.

Do you know what I mean by "control for?" This is a really, really important question and I don't want to make assumptions. It means Make sure another variable isn't causing the difference you see by eliminating the other variable. For example: If we see racism, some people say "It's all about class, not race at all." So, you control for class, meaning you compare Black and White populations of exactly the same class and see if you still see a difference. If you do, class ain't it. (You do, by the way.)
2. Both the Black and the White populations are too mixed to sort out genetically. Better than one out of four White people in America have at least one Black ancestor. The Black statistics are way higher. If you're trying to tell if being Black is a factor when measuring anything, how, genetically speaking, do you define "Black?" How can you tell what the mix is in any given person? Do we even look? No, we don't. So, if we define "Black" by self-identifying and how a person looks, that tells us more about how they're treated than about the specifics of their ancestry. In other words, the differences are environmental, not genetic.
3. If you want to know if generations of awful treatment is the cause of the problems, how do you tell? Simple, get a control group, in this case a group of Black people in America who didn't go through generations of extreme abuse in the form of American slavery and its (continuing) aftermath. Fortunately, there is one: Blacks of Caribbean ancestry. Like Colin Powell. When we look at that population, what do we see?

Higher median education levels than overall American median
Higher median income than overall American median
Lower median crime rates than overall American median
By the way, "overall American median" isn't overall Black American median, it's overall Everyone American median. In other words, your average Black of Caribbean ancestry is doing better on these parameters than your average White American.

The problem is not genetic racial inferiority.

So, if it's not genetic racial inferiority, why is this population underperforming statistically?

To illustrate why, let's try an exercise:

You probably know something about what it was like for your ancestors when they came over to the United States. Ellis Island, bringing other family members over, how the Jewish community helped them acclimate and get employed, etc. Let's pretend it happened differently.

Your ancestors are kidnapped and brought over here forcibly. The family they have is forcibly broken up, never to be reassembled. Any practicing of Judaism is punished, and their daily activities are monitored closely enough for this to be feasible. They are forced to practice Christianity. They are named for the people they work for; Jewish first and last names disappear within a generation, as does almost all vestiges of Yiddish. Your family is rural, so they aren't literate, and teaching them or their children to read is illegal. It is important that they be recognizable, so yellow stars are tattooed to their foreheads allowing anyone to see that they're Jews at a glance. Jews cannot travel, so no networking. In other words, most of their fundamental Jewishness is gone in a generation or two, replaced by a culture whose relationship with the majority population consists mainly of resentment, quite justifiably, and servitude, out of necessity. 
Their employers can have sex with them any time they want with no legal penalty. This includes rape. If any children result, they get yellow star tattoos. If a Jewish male looks suggestively, or is accused of looking suggestively, at a non-Jewish female, the most common result is a fairly quick hanging. In any instance where it's their word against that of a non-Jew, they always lose. The law is never on their side.

They are now an uneducated population and are treated with the scorn of an uneducated population - as if they're stupid. They have no skill set that makes it obvious to them that this accusation is invalid. As the generations go on, many Jews internalize that image of themselves.

The legal situation of Jews eventually eases up somewhat in that servitude is not automatic, but it is de facto. They still have no credibility vs. non-Jews in court cases. Jews are rarely on juries involving Jewish defendants. Jews have a lot of separate facilities, a little like in Germany in the late 1930's. Those facilities are never equal.

The police are never considered friendly by the Jews. The law is primarily used to oppress them rather than to protect them.

It is difficult for Jews to get jobs because employers don't like to hire stupid uneducated people. They fight as hard as they can. They establish universities and colleges that are Historically Jewish Colleges and Universities (HJCU's).

A huge war breaks out. Jewish men go over and serve with fantastic distinction, particularly in the Air Force, for a country that doesn't treat them decently. Gentile bombers request their protection. They are heroes. They come home like the rest of America's soldiers and are thanked by their country by being treated like dirt.

Because of their difficulties in getting jobs, the most logical ways to keep food on the table and get any luxuries at all are illegal, so the drug trade grows in their neighborhoods. The police weren't inclined to like them anyway. They are searched more often than non-Jews. They are arrested more often than non-Jews. They get convicted more often than non-Jews - in this vision, Jewish lawyers are nothing special because most Jewish kids don't have enough of an education to aspire to law school. That treatment of education like it's sacred gets beaten out of most of us. Their sentences average double or triple those of non-Jews for equivalent crimes and equivalent criminal records.

Even after they let us live with everyone else, which takes decades, and go to school with everyone else, which takes a huge fight, and ride on the same bus seats as everyone else, which takes a massive boycott, and all of which involves a lot of Jews being murdered, most of our schools are inferior to those of the general population. Why? Because schools are funded locally and most of us our poor, so the tax base doesn't exist to pay for decent schools or up to date textbooks.

You want to buy a house? Expect not to be shown certain neighborhoods and expect mortgage rates to be higher than those offered to non-Jews with identical incomes and credit histories. You want to be hired? Not if you're going against non-Jews. You want to be promoted? Don't be silly; you're going to be passed by those people without the forehead tattoos, even if they're completely incompetent. By the way, you'll probably be training them to pass you. If things get tight, you're the first fired.

Voting is difficult. When Jews finally do get to vote, a lot of the localities and states do everything they can to keep them from voting, including sending terrorist organizations to scare them, making it difficult to register, and understaffing polling places in their neighborhoods.

You get stopped by the cops all the time because of your tattoo. You go shopping for anything and the store detective follows you. Your kids go to school and they instantly get treated like they're incapable and like they will cause discipline problems, whether it's true or not. Your kids and the kids of your fellow Jews become self-fulfilling prophesies, not doing well in school because they are not expected to.

Now they get out of school and if they've stayed out of trouble they want to buy a house. You want to help them with a down payment but you can't, because you've been underemployed, underpromoted, and paid higher interest all your life, so you have less cash than gentile parents, which means your kids' gentile peers get a huge financial head start.
Now, finally, Jews start to protest and they get somewhere. People in Congress figure out that all this is unjust and that having us as a permanent underclass is a bad idea, so they finally start to help us. They tell schools: Look, you have to admit some Jewish kids. They tell companies: Look, you have to hire some Jewish people. They tell companies: Look, you have to promote some Jewish people.

And we begin to see change, as long as it's forced. And we begin to see assistance from the government, because we have a whole lot of ground to make up.

And we make up some of it. We still face all sorts of obstacles because even though functional antisemitism isn't legal any more, it's still practiced. We still live in poor neighborhoods so our schools are still worse than those of most gentiles. When the economy goes down, we're still the ones who lose the jobs we have first and have the most trouble being hired.

Amazingly, one of us is elected President. His father is a Jew from overseas, so he didn't go through the crap we did. Once he reaches office, he encounters bizarre accusation after bizarre accusation. The honeymoon period most Presidents get doesn't materialize at all. The opposition says that their first priority is to make him a one-term President - as soon as he gets into office before he even does anything. He encounters the filibuster from the opposition more than all of his predecessors - Combined. He is given Hell. He is extremely conciliatory, far too conciliatory as far as a lot of Jews are concerned, but it doesn't help - he's given Hell anyway. His opponent is such a monster that he gets re-elected.

And then, finally, Pat Buchanan comes along and says we owe the gentiles. And all sorts of people say: Amen! About time!
Any questions?

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Comment by L in the Southeast on July 21, 2013 at 3:29pm

Freakin' brilliant,  Kosh!  Absolutely the best thing I've seen in response to such ridiculous tripe in Buchanan's email.  Bravo!

Comment by Myriad on July 21, 2013 at 3:30pm

Awaiting your correspondent's response.

You've tried to get thru to her before.  Has it ever made so much as a dent?

I just read this item and can say from beyond your borders (tho we are not *pure*) that this is indeed what y'all look like to the rest of the world: /

Links don't show up in color in posts, so just in case it doesn't in comments either a note that the url is linked, so you can just click on it.

Comment by Arthur James on July 21, 2013 at 6:15pm


off topic?

How does one?

Get into Opium Den?

We suck thumb in den?

My buttons are broken.

I never sense any lust.

I sure do love affection.

Who in den with cob pipe?

I'll share Salsa Las Glorias

and ripe heirloom tomatoes.

Enjoy ` Green Tomatillo, and

Habanera ` Hot ` Tomato Salsa.

We get some good` Hot Lips?

Comment by koshersalaami on July 21, 2013 at 6:25pm
I don't know because I don't chat. I used to chat too much.

You got any idea how many people are trying to get you back on OS?
Comment by Arthur James on July 21, 2013 at 6:37pm


Thanks Kosh.

I was in Israel in 1973.

The Yom Kipper War began.

On Yom Kipper since then:


I wish nice Jews much fun.

Especially on Easter Day.

We need layer chickens.

Summer heat ruins hens.

Hen No Lay Egg Plants.

Chickens chat and crow.

Hens cackle in Queens,

Bronx, and on 5th Ave.

Hens no lay egg plant.

Mormons eat egg plant.

They eat Pork Loin too.

Pray for Baptist pundits.

They prey on the Pope.

Comment by nerd cred on July 21, 2013 at 9:44pm

I respect your fortitude in continuing to try to teach this person.  But - Buchanan hasn't learned anything in all this time, why should she?

Comment by koshersalaami on July 21, 2013 at 10:17pm

I like egg plants.
Speaking of Egg Plants,
There's a restaurant in the DC area, in Great Falls, VA. It's been there quite a while. You drive down a road that has hills like a roller coaster then, at this curve, there's an incredibly quaint and quite good French Alsacian restaurant. It is called L'Auberge Chez Francois. My wife liked to translate that as "The Eggplant At Frank's House."

Nerd Cred,
I'm not really reaching her. I think, however, I may be reaching her kids.

Comment by Ron Powell on July 22, 2013 at 5:25am

I couldn't have written it better....I'm too angry and disgusted....

Pat Buchanan is proof positive that we've only just begun to scratch the surface re social/racial justice...

We have so very, very far to go and I'm afraid that getting so very, very tired:

"...The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,

But I have promises to keep,

And miles to go before I sleep,

And miles to go before I sleep."

---Robert Frost

Comment by koshersalaami on July 22, 2013 at 7:49am
So this is part of keeping our promises
Comment by Arthur James on July 22, 2013 at 8:10am




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