as I said, nana  get someone to read my post to you, you obviously are incapable of understanding simple English on your own.

See if you can figure out the simple proposition put forth that "PRO football" is NOT's entertainment. I watch FOOTBALL when I watch high school kids play it.I care about FOOTBALL, not about the antics of Sunday afternoon entertainers.If you can't even get that right, you are hopeless.

As to the effectiveness of the protest? Seems as if you'd rather make enemies by insulting people than promote understanding. You'd call up people in Columbus Ohio at random and call them racist assholes to protest Columbus day. But then, you've been a jackass from way back.

As to my quoting "Stormfront"? as in:

"I'm better acquainted with Token than you think, Kosh. He and I go way, way back, and I've seen him do posts at Open Salon that linked to or were copy and pasted directly from white supremacist websites such as Stormfront. He masquerades as something else here at Our Salon, just as he sometimes did on Open, but mark my words; when I refer to him as a racist I know exactly what and who I'm talking about".  ... (Nana on my post "What it is isn't football)

Find one time.

They are still out there... all of my posts

Or better yet, find a "stormfront" article and imagine a post I made around it, which is more your speed and intellect.

Put up or shut up. Nana. Admit you"mispoke" or be recognized as a liar who makes shit up as his mouth outruns his braIn.

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Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 12:53pm


delete all you want

put up or shut up. post the blog that I linked to stormfront


Comment by koshersalaami on September 29, 2017 at 1:32pm


As my support goes, I don't know much about Stormfront, but if the accusation is that your attitude toward Blacks is Klan or Nazi, my history with you doesn't reflect that, and my history with you is way more detailed than your history with anyone else currently on this site. The only reaction I ever saw that really gave me pause was your reaction to Bill's coffee invitation, but I'm not a mind reader on that one. I don't see Nazi/Klan as being your perspective at all - in fact, I've seen reactions from you diametrically opposed to that perspective - and I have probably had more race discussions/arguments with you than anyone on either site has. 

Comment by nanatehay on September 29, 2017 at 1:53pm

Token is a stone-cold racist, Kosh, he seriously, genuinely is. The post I referenced last night had to do with sub-Saharan Africans being subhumans, but I realize you got no particular reason to believe me and in fact I'm not by any means expecting you or anyone else to do so. A funny thing about me, though, is that while I may not have any idea where my car keys are right now, I can generally recall with a fair amount of precision conversations from 4 or 9 or 13 years ago. I remember quite well when I first crossed paths with you, for instance, and Amy, and Bill Beck and loads of other OSers some quite well known and some hardly no one remembers but me. Don't take my word for it, but I recommend you take Token's act with a grain of salt as well. 

Comment by nanatehay on September 29, 2017 at 2:04pm

And btw, Kosh? Bill Beck was a great guy in many ways, but as often as not he was batshit crazy too.  At one point he got it into his head that I was Natalie B, and nothing she or I said could convinve him otherwise. Still, the very first comment I ever got on any of my posts was from Bill, and a very thoughtful, kind, encouraging comment it was too. 

Comment by koshersalaami on September 29, 2017 at 2:43pm


All I can talk about is what I've observed. This is the evidence I have. It doesn't matter what I believe; it would be wrong for me to make an accusation based on this. I have no sure way of knowing if you're right or wrong, but if you're wrong, that leaves Token in one Hell of a position. The accusation is serious and hasn't been substantiated. If you want to pursue this and you don't have access to actual text, you'd need witnesses. By which I don't mean Amy - she has accused me wrongly too many times. 

Under the circumstances, I can't treat Token like a stone cold racist, even if he were to turn out to be one. 

Comment by nanatehay on September 29, 2017 at 3:02pm

I'm not the one pursuing it, Kosh - that's all Token. And as I already said, I don't expect you to treat him like a racist or in any other way but however you see fit. Why is that, do you think? It is because, as I also said earlier, I really don't give much of a hang either way. Carry on, sir. 

Comment by koshersalaami on September 29, 2017 at 3:15pm

All you have to know is how you'd react in my position. 

Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 3:23pm

sorry about the lapse, the adults came home and i had too go big people stuff for a while.

So- You remember some post about sub Saharan Africans, huh?

Trot it out, LIAR

As Kosher points out, you make a serious accusation, and then wiggle and squirm about proving it.

Either prove it, or apologize, you weasel

As it is, you prove yourself a LIAR

Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 3:35pm

uh, terry... you got that posted about 5 times

It isn't about football. read the original post. It's about the effect entertainers have on their audience when they "protest", and the audience goes to watch something else. 

Comment by nanatehay on September 29, 2017 at 3:42pm

Hey, I got an idea - how about if you prove it or disprove it, Fritz. You're the one having the vapors as you turn something maybe 5 or 6 people mighta noticed into something every single active member on the site has either seen or soon enough will. I stand by what I said, fucknuts, so I guess now you're just gonna have to like it, lump it, or gnash your teeth as you spin so fast in frustrated chagrin that you fly up your own fundament. So sad... 



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