as I said, nana  get someone to read my post to you, you obviously are incapable of understanding simple English on your own.

See if you can figure out the simple proposition put forth that "PRO football" is NOT's entertainment. I watch FOOTBALL when I watch high school kids play it.I care about FOOTBALL, not about the antics of Sunday afternoon entertainers.If you can't even get that right, you are hopeless.

As to the effectiveness of the protest? Seems as if you'd rather make enemies by insulting people than promote understanding. You'd call up people in Columbus Ohio at random and call them racist assholes to protest Columbus day. But then, you've been a jackass from way back.

As to my quoting "Stormfront"? as in:

"I'm better acquainted with Token than you think, Kosh. He and I go way, way back, and I've seen him do posts at Open Salon that linked to or were copy and pasted directly from white supremacist websites such as Stormfront. He masquerades as something else here at Our Salon, just as he sometimes did on Open, but mark my words; when I refer to him as a racist I know exactly what and who I'm talking about".  ... (Nana on my post "What it is isn't football)

Find one time.

They are still out there... all of my posts

Or better yet, find a "stormfront" article and imagine a post I made around it, which is more your speed and intellect.

Put up or shut up. Nana. Admit you"mispoke" or be recognized as a liar who makes shit up as his mouth outruns his braIn.

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Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 9:08am


Calling Nana a LIAR falls under that heading. If he doesn't remember, he makes it up. Still waiting for him to "remember" one of the posts where I cited a "Stormfront" article.

Come on, nana, you can do it! Use your imagination. (At least then you'd be a "storyteller" and not an out and out LIAR)

Comment by koshersalaami on September 29, 2017 at 9:33am

To whoever else is reading this thread:

I can only comment based on my own experience, and I am not aware of anything that predates my presence on Open Salon. The closest thing to this I'm aware of was quoting the Horst Wessel Lied in an argument with Bill Beck. 

I am very aware of Token's positions in that there was a period on Open Salon when about half of Token's posts started as comments on my blog. This may include Token blogging under other names,  most if not all of which I was made aware of, such as Herr Rudolphus Der Rude, I Wooden Doodat, etc. 

I had more than my share of race arguments with Token, but those arguments had a very specific scope. I can pretty much call him the King of White Privilege, but I do not recall his ever characterizing Blacks as inferior or the enemy. He doesn't believe Government helps much of anything, so he doesn't believe in Government intervention in race issues. Where he lives, they apparently - through church - take care of their community, regardless of color. That this model won't apply everywhere is his brick wall - I don't understand the existence of that wall, nor have I ever gotten around it. This attitude appears to be based on a whole lot of really bad experience with local government. Police being part of the Government, his sympathies when it comes to unarmed Black males being killed tend to lie with the victims, including one well known one quite close to where he lives. 

So it depends what you're talking about. In terms of understanding Black circumstances and allowing for them, his track record is lousy at best - he is mostly not receptive to such arguments. However, I would not expect to find him carrying a tiki torch through Charlottesville. If that's the nature of the accusation, I don't recall seeing it, and I think I would remember if I saw it. 

For what it's worth. 

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on September 29, 2017 at 10:25am

Defending or accepting our societal race-based privileges, overt and/or less clear,  is clearly also an expression/assertion of superiority.

Comment by nanatehay on September 29, 2017 at 10:36am

True dat, Jon. 

Comment by koshersalaami on September 29, 2017 at 10:41am


I can't argue with that. 

Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 10:41am


you aren't in a position to "true dat" anything until you either come up with a post where I linked or copied a "Stormfront" article, or you admit that you, at best, possess a faulty memory.

You either misspoke,or you lied

which is it?

Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 10:48am


Thank you for your support (I think?). Too many of my parents generation of relatives died fighting Nazi's to put up with such an accusation from such a source. 

I'll accept your evaluation of my position re "government", though, as you are aware, I would make a more "nuanced" statement of my thoughts.

As to Race? We are all of the Human Race.. We help each other.

Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 10:55am


You are welcome to your opinion.

Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 10:58am


Post your shit somewhere else

Come up with the Stormfront article, or admit that you lied.


Comment by Token on September 29, 2017 at 11:05am

you can do better than that, nana

Come on, make up a real rip roaring storm trooper thing that I supposedly cited/copied and pasted.

You can do it!

Lying comes to you as easily as breathing.


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