I'm in the kitchen this morning. My daughter's boyfriend is cooking, some potato recipe (little red ones) as an alternative to the oily but good sautéed version he and my daughter usually cook, incessantly because my daughter loves it. He says to me

"Do you have any time?"

For what?

It turns out he's saying "thyme." He's never heard of it, but there happens to be a jar of it out on the counter that he finds immediately.

You might think that made me worry about his culinary education. Screw that; it made me worry about his musical education. Everybody from my generation knows what thyme is; if we didn't know already, we learned that it somehow went with parsley, sage, and rosemary.

Here, Kid, you need to know about this:


It could have been worse. At least he'd heard of the artists.

Artie has such a killer voice on this.

As it turns out, the guitar part isn't that hard. I learned it back in the seventies. You need a capo, but at least it's in standard tuning.

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Comment by Ron Powell on August 7, 2017 at 7:32am



Comment by Terry McKenna on August 7, 2017 at 7:39am

Ron: sorry, one example does not a pattern make.  Paul Simon is not alone in writing personal material but it does not help the singer.  for example I could not sing "one and one half wandering jews... " convincingly.  Tom Waits does a far better job at crafting material for wider use.  love paul simon, and some of the later stuff works but that is not what he is after. 

Comment by Terry McKenna on August 7, 2017 at 7:46am

I love this song for example, but I have heard other try it, and it does not work.

Comment by Steel Breeze on August 7, 2017 at 8:08am

always liked S&G........as for thyme,well,i gotta strange taster,lotta stuff other folk love has no taste at all for me....thyme,rosemary,eggplant,mushroom,etc.....dont bother me if it's in stuff,can't taste it....on the other hand,my ol lady started growing garlic chives a few years ago and its outstanding....

Comment by Ron Powell on August 7, 2017 at 8:36am


1. Cut the 'sorty' shit .That condescending white privilege, disingenuos, hypocritical, faux apology crap doesn' t cut it with me. 

2.  Inasmuch as you could put the entirety of you KNOWLEDGE of music on the head of a pin and still have room for the entirety of your KNOWLEDGE of black history and the black experience, you should  back off, shut up and try to learn something on this subject.

3. Kosh was saying that he never learned how to play gospel. My posting the song by different performers was an object lesson in the difference in types and styles re the arrangements and performances. Since he learns by ear as I do he can hear the variations that the gospel style represents v the style in which Simon and Garfinkel wrote and performed the piece.



5. Don't start something here that you're unable to finish. Remember you can't close the comments here and runaway because you don't possess sufficient rhetorical skills to play, much less compete, in what you derisively refer to as 'word games'.




Comment by koshersalaami on August 7, 2017 at 9:05am

Can't anyone here spell Garfunkel?


Terry said:

"His lyrics are not generally amenable to being sung by others.   Not at least since his first few years with Art Garfunkle." 

Bridge Over Troubled Waters is from "his first few years with Art Garfunkel." Terry isn't wrong that one example doesn't make a pattern, particularly an example that falls outside the period of his criticism, meaning the example doesn't actually contradict what he said. If I'd argued by presenting that example, Terry would have written "Sorry, Kosh." I've been contradicted by Terry enough times to know that his tone with me would have been identical. 

Comment by Terry McKenna on August 7, 2017 at 9:32am

Ron: actually I am a trained singer and can sing in church without amplication.  you need to get over yourself by the way.  

you are someone who can't seem to realize just how much of an imperialist you are.  you cannot tolerate dissent.  but this is not my problem.  

Comment by Terry McKenna on August 7, 2017 at 9:33am

re closing comments - i am intrigued that that annoys you.  truth to tell, i don't come here to make friends nor do i expect to convince anyone.  but at least i know that.  you seem to be unable to accept they you are, rhetorically speaking, a none note melody.

Comment by Ron Powell on August 7, 2017 at 9:41am

My comment has absolutely nothing to do with lyrics whatssoever, and you know it...

I was not reacting or responding to his comment at all. If anything,  I was trying to ignore it.

My comment was/is about the instrumentation, particularly/specifically the piano.

The juxtaposition of the videos gives you the opportunity to see the hands of the pianists as they work through the arrangements.

Re:"his tone with me would have been identical".

Not possible, the perception of the tone is paramount here.

I've expressed displeaure with this usage before. The lack of respect and regard for that is what makes your statement an execise in false equivalency.

What kind of Trump/Putin thing do you have going anyway?

I respons to your comment about learning how to PLAY gospel music and he replies with some totally eroneous bullshit and you come come to his defense with some shit that you know has nothing to do with my purpose or my point.

Keep it up and the two of you will soon be using the same asshole with which to shit.

Comment by Anna Herrington on August 7, 2017 at 10:10am

Can only add, on the musical side, that I had Garfunkel's album, Angel Clare, as a kid and I absolutely loved his rendition of Barbara Allen so much my mother worried about me. I know what you mean by 'comparatively speaking, he's a failure' (or something like that, comparing his musical successes to Simon's) but still that is such an odd way to judge someone, as a failure due to less musical fame? Just a different path through life, personally, no less successful.... but I get irritated in general when people are judged by specific criteria against so many other possible ways to consider them. I DO know what you meant, though.

Garfunkel struggled mightily and likely still does with depression - and in an interview once Garfunkel declared he'd created a monster, in Simon, and that he first spoke to Simon because he felt sorry for how short Simon was/is. Ouch! Talk about judging.... That likely hasn't helped any softening in their multi-decade estrangement....

One area I do know a bit about is medicinal herbs. Thyme. It has many medicinal properties - and so many have no idea about so many 'culinary' herbs these days: how many have good to excellent medicine in them....

Disclaimer: all herbal information informational and always check with a doctor before taking any herbs for medicinal purposes... although sprinkling thyme on red potatoes is allowed, considered harmless to a healthy individuals, and any ensuing medicinal benefits would be obtained purely in culinary ignorance (a bit tongue in cheek, but I'm required to state as any herbs with medicinal properties can be no joke and same with the regulating powers that be once they see good medicinal information being mentioned on anything outside of AMA-approved pharmaceuticals)

Its most active aspect is thymol, an anti-bacterial and anti-fungal that's used in Vicks Vapo Rub and also Listerine, its efficacy is so stable and strong.

Thyme has been effective against antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria, too - something an herbal teacher mentioned to me over twenty five years ago when it became clear antibiotics were so overused that bacteria were developing resistances, that there would be a time (ha!) when anti-bacterial herbs would be important in the fight again....

Thyme aids in upset stomach, gas, sore throats, and has anti-tumor properties, as well. Even bacterially contaminated vegetables can be washed with a 1% solution of thyme oil in water and the contaminants decrease to below detectable levels, ie, disappear. Thyme has historically aided in bronchitis, too, and is considered a mood elevator.

Known to also aid with arthritis....

(that one I noticed when I just looked up thyme to see if I remembered my medicinal herb studies from years ago....)

And, the all-important part:  did you like the taste??


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