The man, of course, needs to be gone, and particularly should Mr Mueller's investigation show what I (and others) have believed and written about. The crux of the Putin grip has always been systematic money-laundering by the Trump organisation for Mr Putin's network. That hold on the man, then, and the formidable lobbying the president has done, the pro-Putin decisions he has made contrary to the security interests of the United States, during the election's run-up and since, may make a compelling impeachment argument. 

Still, now, I sense that most of our social/political institutions will, hard upon conviction, so welcome Mr Pence, hail his elevation as a return to acceptable normalcy, be lent so much undeserved rope, that the already increasingly marginalised (women, lgbt citizens, the poor, working people, children) will be further deeply harmed by the active narrow and deleterious vision of his religio-political commitments and the need in the culture to view him as benign. So I do ask if the move, now, is to seek impeachment or to work very hard to win in '20.

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Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on December 12, 2017 at 11:11am

Good Tuesday to all.

Comment by Ron Powell on December 12, 2017 at 12:03pm

Pence is a political animal who has extremely disagreeable social and cultural postures and perspectives.

Trump is an apolitical animal who has no social or cultural postures and perspectives of any value, meaning, purpose, or consequence.

And then there's Paul Ryan....

Are we simply to choose among the lesser of all the evils?

Remove Trump, win in '20?

And then what?

There can be no return to "normalcy" because normalcy is what brought us to where we are. 

'"Normalcy'' is the place from which we must escape.

Trump's presidency shows us that.

If there is anything at all to the notion or concept of American Exceptionalism it lies in the collective desire and capacity to rise above and transcend American Normalcy. 

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on December 12, 2017 at 2:57pm



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