Dear friends,

        I have owned and managed this site since 2010. When Open Salon went away, I offered the site as a place for people to join and connect with one another. At that time, the goal was simply to keep people from losing contact with friends they had made over the years at Open Salon.

Over the past few years, the site has evolved into a functioning blogging site. While that was never my intention, I do not regret any decisions I made to allow that to happen and even to improve that experience. It has been a lot of work and sometimes a bit of a Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and also it has been fun.

In the last year, the fun has gone out of it for me & the result of that has been my absence. The constant in-fighting, the lack of support for any efforts I have made to make this place financially self-sustaining. While I appreciate those who have contributed, it has always been the same few individuals. Overall there has been a lack of financial support from the majority... all of it has worn me out. What has kept me going has been the strong sense of community I would occasionally glimpse when for example we shared common losses of some of our members. That sense of community made all the crap worth it.

In the last few weeks I have received multiple complaints regarding the tediousness of the same old disagreements in comments, the constant barrage of political posts, the crazy behavior of certain commenters etc etc... As of today, I have emails from 9 people who are going to "take a break" or otherwise disengage themselves from the site because the fun has gone out of it for them as well.  They too are just plain worn out from it.

SO... now what? I don't know really, but first let me say that I will not just "disappear" the site the way Open Salon did. Your blogs are not in jeopardy of being forever lost (though as a rule I think you should always be backing up your work as a precaution against things beyond my control.) At this point, I am simply sharing this information with you all. As it stands, the active members are few and some people are leaving. This cannot continue.  As active members here, do with that information what you will. Each of you can choose to try to make this place better, or worse, or just ignore it all until there is no way to sustain the site. Its up to you. I am open to & will entertain & support any & all useful discussions about where we go from here.

Meanwhile, I have suspended Art James once again. He has become a negative influence and frankly, it will be easier for me to deal with the complaints FROM him (and possibly others) than  dealing with the complaints ABOUT him.

As I said, I am willing to listen to any possible solutions and to give this place a chance, I am just unwilling to live with the status quo or do it alone.

As to the financial needs, please do not donate or ask about donations at this time.  Until there is a viable plan for the future, I will maintain full financial responsibility for the site. Money is not really the problem & therefor not the solution.

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Comment by Anna Herrington on December 2, 2017 at 11:04am

Well, I can't exactly like this post, Lorraine, but I certainly understand. You've been an excellent host and the joint has been trashed. I'm so sorry....

Comment by lorianne on December 2, 2017 at 11:06am

Dont be sorry Anna, I'm certainly not. I have had a good time with the place and learned a lot. I hope we can save it.

Comment by Maui Surfer on December 2, 2017 at 11:07am

Your patience has been virtuous. I came to Open Salon 9 years ago now to begin writing about surfing. Instead, being from Hawaii, I was hit in the face buy the fictitious nature of virtually everything written about our ex-president. Now, instead of a genius we have an evil dunce-cap for a prez, so I doubt the political discussions, which there are myriad other sites for which I have tried to move my commenting on such things too. My suggestion may sound facile, but, how about we start writing again and offering reviews and constructive criticism. By far the most talented person to grace this site is Drew Silla, but she has disappeared again as I often do, and I don't think most of our readers even know who she is or her incredible actual accomplishments out there in the real world. I've been writing, when I am on Maui I just can't, the family stuff takes over, but I have been writing an autobiographical story about her neighborhood (this is not stalking stuff!!!!!, it is one of the most famous places in the world) and hope to post it soon. Maybe she will even comment, but I look forward to hearing people's thoughts on culture and history and the 60s instead of a Tax Plan that will screw the whole world. Sorry I didn't follow through with my donation, let me know when you are ready to accept them again. Thanks for your time in learning ning. These shell programs are all different and usually a pain in the ass one way or the other, I haven't tried ning specifically but if I had to bet I'd say it is quirky too ... thank you for your great work.

Comment by Anna Herrington on December 2, 2017 at 11:08am

I really hope we can too. There's really no other place like it.

Again, thank you! for all your efforts and gracious hosting over the years, I, for one, have loved being here, learned a lot, too....

: )

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on December 2, 2017 at 11:09am

Let me just say a hearty, "FUCK YOU" to all of the scheming bastards who us back channel PMs to plot and attack people with whom they do not agree.  I'll gladly name names if necessary, but I think everyone knows who they are.

I also am 100% sure that the "multiple complaints" and the 9 people "taking a break" is a well orchestrated vendetta generated by the same above mentioned people.  Their actions are totally disgusting, IMO. 

Comment by Ron Powell on December 2, 2017 at 11:52am

"...the constant barrage of political posts..."

I make the following pledge;

When I am no longer faced with the constant barrage of racism and bigotry which I must navigate on a daily basis for my safety and sanity, I will cease and desist from writing about the racism and bigotry that eats away the social and political fabric of the society and this country like a cancer eats away at its host.

I understand and appreciate that "after all, this is just social media". That is why I posted about the Thanksgiving anniversary of my mother's death.

However, as I have stated, I don't do gush and blush....

If this place becomes a mecca for exhibitionism and voyeurism, I'm out...

And not as part of some back channel conspiracy or vendetta...

Comment by marilyn sands on December 2, 2017 at 12:10pm

Thank you so much Lorianne!  You're the greatest!  R&R

Comment by Ron Powell on December 2, 2017 at 12:19pm

I  offer the following suggestion as part of finding a "solution":

Categorize the front page under topical headings magazine style:







Each contributor is required to self edit and characterize and categorize her/his post as a condition precedent to publication...

In this way,  if you're not into a certain category you can skip it altogether..

Just a thought. ..

Comment by alsoknownas on December 2, 2017 at 12:48pm


I understand.

Hopefully things can cool down some and renewed vitality will re-emerge. Personally I need a physical break from most things that do not have to do with home and business.

If there are persons behind the scenes plotting I am unaware of it and have not received any overtures from anyone in that regard.

Thank you.

Comment by koshersalaami on December 2, 2017 at 12:58pm

Hi Lorianne

I appreciate all you've done and frankly sometimes don't understand why you bother but I appreciate it nonetheless. 

Is there an objection on your part to political posts? This is news to me. Is there an aspect of political posts you'd rather we avoided, or is the category a problem for some reason? 

I'd also l8ke to thank you again for organizing the plane ticket for the funeral. That was a seriously nice thing to do. 



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