This is one of the most intriguing, revealing, and thought-provoking articles that I've ever read...from the Los Angeles times (and cogently written too)...

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Comment by fred hallman on October 8, 2015 at 4:57pm

I think that everyone might enjoy this, it pretty much syncs with every idle thought that I've ever had on the subject anyway. All 3 of them.

Comment by Arthur James on October 8, 2015 at 5:28pm


i liked ya'S

FIRST comment.

i love those idle

thought notions.


Mind rest...

Mind blank.

Then, hit the

haystack and

Enter REM rest.


Redemption and

no vain delusions,

and no ` Grandeur '

as If ` better than '

Our Fellow Human '

`~ - ` bedtime aye `

and Blended? Aye '

Be... Blessed? Ah!

`~ ' pop-off-vent -


Comment by koshersalaami on October 8, 2015 at 7:03pm
I've wondered. I knew a pair of identical twins, one gay, one straight
Comment by JMac1949 Today on October 8, 2015 at 7:32pm

The consensus has been that human sexual preference is the product of multiple factors: genetic, family life, life experience and to a certain extent, choice.  Leonard Bernstein is one of my favorite examples: "After much personal struggle and a turbulent on-off engagement, he married the Costa Rican-born American actress Felicia Cohn Montealegre on September 10, 1951. One suggestion is that he chose to marry partly to dispel rumors about his private life to help secure a major conducting appointment, following advice from his mentor Dimitri Mitropoulos about the conservative nature of orchestra boards In a book released in October 2013, The Leonard Bernstein Letters, his wife reveals his homosexuality. Felicia writes: 'You are a homosexual and may never change—you don’t admit to the possibility of a double life, but if your peace of mind, your health, your whole nervous system depend on a certain sexual pattern what can you do?'   Arthur Laurents (Bernstein's collaborator in West Side Story) said that Bernstein was "a gay man who got married.  He wasn't conflicted about it at all.  He was just gay."  Shirley Rhoades Perle, another friend of Bernstein, said that she thought "...he required men sexually and women emotionally."  But the early years of his marriage seem to have been happy, and no one has suggested Bernstein and his wife didn't love each other. They had three children, Jamie, Alexander, and later Nina. There are reports, though, that Bernstein did sometimes have brief extramarital liaisons with young men, which several family friends have said his wife knew about."

Most people with the courage to explore their sexuality find that they are, to one degree or another, bi-sexual.  Some discover that they are transsexual and a few are asexual. Beyond that there is every possible combination in the mix.  R&L ;-)

Comment by fred hallman on October 8, 2015 at 8:33pm

Yeah, @Kosh and Jmac...I've always believed that there must be both nurture and genetic pre-disposing factors both to account for homosexuality since every other known human behavior requires both.

If you think of a sexually orientation 100 percentile range with the known extremely hetero at the 100 mark and the true homosexuals at the first few percentiles followed by bisexuals of marked genetic pre-disposition for the next few, followed by satyr types who just don't care where they stick it followed by at some point the vast majority of true heteros ranging from those with occasional yearnings that are never even seriously contemplated as far as it comes to actually acting upon such, leaving crowding the top of this list the average guy who mostly just never thinks twice on the subject because it doesn't concern him.  I'm up in that crowd somewhere.

I only know one overt homosexual man.  He's my neighbor and we may exchange pleasantries in passing, that's about it.  As far as I know I don't know of any lesbians personally at all.

And Jmac, back before any sort of breeding standards were established socially for humanity, if as you suggest bi-sexuality were a majority, the race would never have survived.  You totally ignored heterosexuals and no one argues that they aren't by far the largest single demographic group.

I'm pretty sure that it's more like half or better never even thought of it, 30% or so may have thought about it seriously but 20% or fewer are sexually oriented as truly bi-sexual, the remaining ten % being nearly totally homosexual in orientation and upwards of 5% at the bottom being in possession of actual physical differentia in genital conformation even if such are relatively minor.  Now remember we are talking orientation here, any body can sell their body to anyone else and not much care either way.

Back when I viewed porn I remember loving the naked women and hating all the penises.  Just sayin'!

Thanks for weighing in and not hating.

I may or may

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