Filibusterer - One Sentence Commentary

[koshersalaami]

I hate it when Rand Paul is right about anything but if a Republican administration had said what Eric Holder said about drones, this blog site would have lit up like a Christmas tree.

[John Fleshman]

koshersalaami,

You are absolutely correct. I do find it interesting seeing the diehard fans of any party back pedal from the facts that they know are true but PRIDE will not let them publically admit it. This is why it is wonderful not to be associated as a D or an R, but as an – “ I” ...

...as in, “ I” own my vote!... a party doesn’t vote for me.

[koshersalaami]

This is a two-way street. If Valerie Plame had been outed by the Clinton administration, Bill Clinton would be in prison for Treason right now.

I'm associated with one of the parties, not because I think they do things well but because one party is far closer to my views than the other is. Also because if you are unaffiliated, in most places you can't vote in the primary, so being a declared Independent buys you nothing but costs you a vote.

However, a party doesn't vote for me either. I vote for them, most of the time.

[Steel Breeze]

agreed....from anudder"I"....

[Patrick Frank]

But did youm know that Rand Paul tried to stoke up right-wing fears by suggesting that the drones might be turned on them? This wiped out any benefit, in my mind.

 

[John Fleshman]

koshersalaami,

Yes, it is a two way street that we all must travel. When data become information and then information becomes knowledge, it should then lead to understanding.

If you are asked a question answers should be giving from our elected and appointed leaders to the best of their understanding or knowledge. If later, with more information and knowledge and a better understanding of the topic, simply admit if your answer was wrong.

But... then the media or people will label you as a flip flopper and you can’t make up your mind (a political sign of weakness)... so the simple defense so many of our leaders do is continue the lie so as not to appear wrong....

I am pretty confident most people will only see the “other” party do this (above).

Koshersalaami, that is why it is refreshing to see people like you admit to the double standard in the media, whether in major media networks or not, which is happening like crazy not only with Paul but with sequestration and the constant if you begin to limit spending “the sky is falling” approach to things; people are just plain sick of the political BS and spin.

Politicians and the media I hope are realizing this “Game” they like to play is “messing” with people’s lives. Sooner or later this “game’s” bluff will be called out. I hope this is finally that time!

[James Mark Emmerling]

The dude pulled off a decent filibuster, gotta hand it to him. He kept 'on point' for most of it, and his 12 hrs without pissing is an uncanny achievement.

He said, " Now, while I’m not a great fan of Jane Fonda, I’m really not so interested in putting her on a drone kill list either.”

That is true bipartisanship!

[koshersalaami]

Patrick,
It's a scare tactic. It's also backward, because Democrats don't tend to get as violently angry at their opponents as Republicans do. (There are plenty of angry Leftists, but they aren't Democrats these days, they hate the Democrats.) If I were talking to Republicans I might be tempted to say that because that's language they can relate to.

John,
Double standards are a two-way street. I've seen the media give free passes to the Republicans plenty of times. However, I don't like them wherever I find them and I happen to have found them here. The same, incidentally, is true of Jon Stewart, a guy I respect a great deal because his standards are his standards and can be used to skewer anyone for screwing up, including himself and his own staff. Of course, we share both a regional and ethnic/religious background, so that might not be all that surprising.

If one objects to double standards, period, one gets more credibility in general. You'll take what I say seriously because, regardless of my views, I think that standards are standards.

[koshersalaami]

James,
He was completely right about Jane Fonda. That's the most interesting thing he said. If Nixon had had drones and the ostensibly legal ability to use them, I would not have guaranteed her life.

[Jonathan Wolfman]

I feel mixed as to drones.

Were they not used under Bush?

Did Open light up then?

[Steel Breeze]

Jon....drones have been round forever.....the first rock,arrow,bullet,etc......only the guidance system has changed.....the TOE missle is a remote guided drone,and its been here quite awhile,the V2 rocket.....and the ol standby,the ICBM,.....the new backpackable drone"switchblade" is now on the scene,as well as the XM25 rifle with programmable rounds......in short,the debate over uses and authority are an important issues.....but the hardware?.....just natural tech progression....