even now, i am nothing if not smart.

re: my argument about the supreme court and roe v wade.  i said its not going to be overturned, and its already gutted, and undue burden is placed on innumerable women.

in a lot lot lot more words, this slate article says the same thing.

off topic - do online magazines even HAVE editors anymore?  the article is 7000 words long,  and written with funding from the Nation Fund or something like that.

www.slate.com/articles/double_x/cover_story/2016/03/how_the_undue_b...

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Comment by nerd cred on March 27, 2016 at 9:49pm

It's a long story but it's a big subject. The story gives a lot of detail and background that you don't find in a lot of the sketchy stuff on the internet.

The Nation Institute is a big deal. Did you follow the link? Best known of its products is The Nation Magazine. It's a big deal, small in size, very serious, very progressive weekly magazine with (mostly) long articles. It's one of the major intellectual bases of progressivism in the country. The wikipedia entry is interesting for the history and background. I stopped subscribing because if I read it all or even very much of it every week I wouldn't have time to read anything else. I'd like to support it but who needs all that paper? I think you'd like it. Most of it's online.

They also publish books and it looks like they support long form investigative reporting.  I wasn't aware of the fund or the fellowships.

Abortion - yeah, the conservatives have been chipping away at it industriously over time, as is their way. On the other side we tend to cry havoc and talk and write a lot but we lack their organization and long-term determination to achieve our ends.

As for you being smart, yeah, I knew that. What's your point? ;-)

Comment by nerd cred on March 27, 2016 at 9:51pm

I see they have a digital only subscription now. $9.50. That's good.

Comment by koshersalaami on March 27, 2016 at 9:52pm
I don't know.

I recently submitted an article to a trade magazine. A guy emailed back to me saying they'd accepted it and would print it in online edition, I just had to approve it. I showed it to my wife and her comment was "This doesn't sound like you." I looked at it. The only thing recognizeable about it was the title. It had been completely rewritten, very badly I might add, and not only didn't sound like my writing, the point of the article had changed into something I didn't even understand, all the more ironic because my point had to do with presenting audio concepts in simple language to church boards.

I didn't ok it. I'd have been visibly published, but I wouldn't put crappy writing out in my name. A lot of my stock in trade is my ability to explain.

Your analysis was on the money.
Comment by JMac1949 Today on March 27, 2016 at 9:54pm

Only 7000 words, I wonder what the complied word count is in all the Red State legislation that's overtly restricting a woman's right to choose?  I have a much shorter rebuttal for the Right to Life folk:  It's not your body. It is a very complicated and difficult choice that is none of your business, so STFU.  Now if we can get SCOTUS to put that in the summary of the majority opinion when they rule against the State of Texas.

Comment by nerd cred on March 27, 2016 at 10:23pm

But did you guys read the article?

Comment by DaisyJane on March 27, 2016 at 11:47pm

nerd, i guessed it might be related to the nation, and that it is fancy, but i will criticize it for not being able to get nearly as much across in say, 4 or 5 thousand words.  better 2500.

and not to brag too much (i am braggy tonight!), but as far as i read, i already knew, so i figured i could give up at about 1500(? guessing) words.  maybe i didnt know names or dates, but i knew most, bc i keep up on the topic, bc its an important one. 

kosher - i am glad you said no, then.  obviously that paper had a very bad editor.  i had a friend once had a story edited, a tiny but crucial edit - they changed the word naked to nude.  i said but the feeling of the two words is very very different, even if they both mean unclothed.  she didnt complain tho, bc it was her first time being published.

jmac, it is a fraction, but its too many for me to read, about anything, these days.  you are right - it is none of their business, and what has been happening, i just cant imagine, the lives of all the victims of right wingers.

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on March 28, 2016 at 5:26am

Roe will not continue to be gutted w either Dem as president and w a better Congress and w any Dem pres appointing the next several Court mbrs. To suggest that the Court will be the same with Trump picks is, by my lights, ludicrous. 

We can be partisan in this primary, yes. Still, to treat the fall election as George Wallace did in '68 ("Ain't a dime's worth of difference 'tween Democrats and Republicans") is unsupportable by anything except emotion and we need  reason as well as emotion in this.

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on March 28, 2016 at 5:27am

As to online mags and editors...the ones that still care abt that are the literary mags.

Comment by DaisyJane on March 28, 2016 at 5:51am

terry - new yorker is always enough!

jw - i have never argued they are the same.  the repubs dont even bear thinking about.  they terrify me. but i dont care.  i will grit my teeth and vote through the fear, bc you dont get my vote by saying, "hey, i am definitely better than the madman!"  no.  other people can vote for her, i havent told one person not to vote for her.  i merely explain why *I* wont.

if there were not one single other reason, but there are, but if there werent, mass incarceration would make me unable to vote for her.  you ever visited a prison, jonathan?  even for an hour?

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on March 28, 2016 at 5:54am

d-jane    definitely better than a sac-obsessed madman is ok w me    and  btw   my primary is in a month and I am not wholly certain who'll get my vote

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