election countdown, trump/ hillary shadow side, FBI craziness

hi all this is quite the prez election. have seen a few in my life & this one seems unprecedented in many ways.

there are record high DISapproval ratings of both candidates. so one might picture that as half the country disapproving of one candidate, and the other half disapproving of the other. but for me and for maybe many others, have high disapproval of BOTH candidates at same time.

an old friend used to tell me of "under the rock" stuff in the world. the so-called Dark Side. jung referred to it as a Shadow. just as individuals have a shadow, and some with very big ones, an entire country can have a shadow.

it looks like both hillary and donald have very big Shadow sides. the public is not willing to look very deeply into these shadows. the macrocosm reflects the microcosm.

we could have a totally different world if we all were willing to face our own shadow. as Nietzsche said, "when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back." or as Pogo said, "we have met the enemy, and he is us."

to me Donald vs Hillary is just two very shady characters surrounded by other very shady (or shadier) characters competing for top power for various motivations. aka what has been called "Gray Men" (not sure where this term originates and it seems to have many meanings).

someone said somewhere that its like two mafioso bosses trying to vie for top dog position aka "alpha male". what is not really acknowledged about alpha males in the wild (eg gorillas) is that they get there by a mix of INTIMIDATION AND REAL VIOLENCE.

as many of the following links attest maybe this is MUCH MORE THAN A METAPHOR.

the public is unresponsive to much of this material. the motto of the individual and collective shadow is SEE NO EVIL, HEAR NO EVIL, SPEAK NO EVIL. oh yeah and the election is a kind of solomonic/ impossible choice between THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.

elsewhere, WTF is up with the FBI? ok, have long tracked the FBI with various blogs but it seems to have reached a crescendo. apparently there are warring factions inside the FBI, somewhat politically motivated, and there is some conflict between the lower and upper ranks.

my musing on this was that the FBI is sort of like the immune system for the country to fight serious crime. now suppose it is distracted by decoy-like diversions, one might call "shadowy", that keep it from prosecuting the REAL criminals. that would be quite advantageous to their continued/ prolonged existence.... another wild scenario, its hard to argue that investigating someone such as a presidential candidate is a mere "distraction/ diversion" but what if the particular crimes being attributed to them are a diversion wrt their "real crimes"?

buddha said: the truth is like the sun and the moon, it cannot remain long hidden, and he also said that right vs wrong was like two dragons fighting. there seems to be some very big fire-breathing dragons running around lately.

a. prez
  • 1. Poll: Trump, Clinton score historic unfavorable ratings - CNNPolitics.com
  • 2. Clinton and Trump Have Terrible Approval Ratings. Does It Matter? - The New York Times
  • 3. Poll: Clinton Unpopularity at New High, on Par With Trump - ABC News
  • 4. Presidential Approval Ratings | Gallup Historical Statistics and Trends
b. hillary
  • 1. FBI Source: Clinton Foundation Can Bring Down Entire Government » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 2. Clinton fixer claims he bought photos of Bill with star, scrubbed Vince Foster's office at Hillary's request | Daily Mail Online
  • 3. Insider: FBI Uncovered Clinton Criminal Enterprise on Weiner’s PC » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 4. National Enquirer’s New ‘Bombshell’: Hillary’s an ‘Evil,’ Bisexual ‘Secret Sex Freak’ - The Daily Beast
  • 5. Here's Why Jebpublicans Support Hillary » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 6. FBI “Insurrection” to Scuttle Director, Rig Election: part 2 | Veterans Today
  • 7. Trump supporter Tomi Lahren suggests Clintons have been involved in multiple murders | Daily Mail Online
  • 8. Paula Jones says she fears for her life if Hillary Clinton is elected president | Daily Mail Online
  • 9. WikiLeaks Offers $20K Reward For Info on Murdered DNC Staffer » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 10. Assange Asked: 'Why Are You So Interested in Seth Rich's Killer?' » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 11. Man Researching Hillary Clinton found Dead, His Last Words Will Haunt You.
  • 12. Clinton Death List’: 33 Most Intriguing Cases Of ‘Coincidental, Accidental’ And ‘Suicidal’ Deaths
  • 14. WikiLeaks: Hacked Emails Prove Hillary ARMED JIHADISTS In Syria - Including ISIS | Daily Wire
  • 15. Julian Assange: Isis and Clinton Foundation are both funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar | The Independent
  • 16. Wikileaks: Hillary Clinton Proposed Killing Assange With Drone Strike » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 17. Hillary Clinton and ISIS are secretly funded by the same shadowy figures, claims Julian Assange - who says Donald Trump won't be ALLOWED to win US election
  • 18. Julian Assange says Hillary Clinton has been 'eaten alive by her ambitions' | Daily Mail Online
  • 19. Why Julian Assange Doesn’t Want Clinton to Be President | Observer
c. trump
  • 1. Donald Trump calls Ted's Cruz's dad Rafael Cruz 'disgraceful' | Daily Mail Online
  • 2. Who Towers Behind Trump? | Veterans Today
  • 3. The Party Girl Who Brought Trump to His Knees - The Daily Beast
  • 4. Donald Trump's hidden business dealings with Mafia boss Fat Tony | Daily Mail Online
  • 5. How Donald Trump worked with mobsters and shady businessmen | Daily Mail Online
  • 6. Trump seen with mobster sitting at professional wrestling event in Atlantic City
  • 7. Donald Trump’s ISIS-Obama Comments First Came From the Russians and Crazy People - The Daily Beast
  • 8. Conspiracy Nuts Voting for Trump, Study Finds | Alternet
  • 9. Donald Trump Is Not a Republican or a Democrat—He’s a Conspiracy Theorist - The Daily Beast
  • 10. Donald Trump’s Pals Say Hillary Clinton Is a Lesbian Murderer, Bill Is a Cocaine Fiend - The Daily Beast
d. fbi
  • 1. Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy - The Daily Beast
  • 2. Pieczenik: Intel Coup Bringing Down Hillary » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 3. American Nightmare: Tyranny Under the FBI, an American Reality (Part III) | Veterans Today
  • 4. The FBI made fake companies so it could fly spy planes over US cities | The Verge
  • 5. The Artist Who Obsessed the FBI - The Daily Beast
  • 6. FBI Document—“[DELETED]” Plots to Kill Occupy Leaders “If Deemed Necessary” - WhoWhatWhy
  • 7. Whitey Bulger’s Defense to Reveal Widespread FBI Complicity - The Daily Beast
  • 8. » FBI Official: We Need to “Keep Fear Alive” to Justify Terror Budget Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 9. » FBI Terror Report: Militia, Sovereign Citizens Greater Threat Than Islamic Terrorists Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
  • 10. FBI National Domestic Threat Assessment Omits Islamist Terrorism | Washington Free Beacon
  • 11. The FBI Has a New Plan to Spy on High School Students Across the Country | Alternet
  • 12. Orlando Shooter's Wife: The FBI Told Me Not to Tell the Media He Was Gay | Alternet
  • 13. Before Omar Mateen Committed Mass Murder, The FBI Tried To 'Lure' Him Into A Terror Plot | Alternet
  • 14. Oklahoma City bombing: 20 years later, key questions remain unanswered | US news | The Guardian 

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Comment by JMac1949 Today on November 4, 2016 at 10:13am

..."Nietzsche said, "when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back." or as Pogo said, "we have met the enemy, and he is us."

Likely the only time in human history when Nietzsche and Pogo can be found in the same sentence.  R&L

Comment by vzn on November 4, 2016 at 10:52am

lol right, there is sometimes some deep philosophical thinking/ wisdom in comics yaknow. actually read the pogo book with that line myself as a kid from my dads collection.... it was part of an environmental themed series/ message but has much deeper implications....

Comment by Zanelle on November 4, 2016 at 10:59am

Seems like it wont be over with the election.  Both have impeachment written all over them and VP picks will run things.  Odd.  

Comment by vzn on November 4, 2016 at 12:58pm

impeachment! a staggering thought. never actually happened before in our 200+ yr history...

Comment by nerd cred on November 4, 2016 at 6:44pm

it looks like both hillary and donald have very big Shadow sides. the public is not willing to look very deeply into these shadows.

This just drives me crazy. Hillary has consistently been one of the most admired women in the world - as long as she wasn't running for anything. Now that she is, she's despised and distrusted.

Not willing to look? Who has ever been more investigated, more subject to intense scrutiny for more time? And yet - no accusation ever proved. If she had done half of what she's been accused of she'd be spending he rest of her life in jail. The accusations have come from the vast right wing conspiracy but they've embedded in the minds of the left as well. The constant equation of her and Trump borders on the insane.

I think there's an aversion to an ambitious woman. Especially a non-girly one acting in her own behalf. If she was ambitious for her husband's sake, or for any man's, it would not be a problem.

This is true even of people who would set their hair on fire at being called sexist.

(And are you really including Alex Jones in your lists? Really? Veterans Today?)

Comment by vzn on November 5, 2016 at 5:58pm

hey nerdcred. the stakes are much higher this time. so it makes sense the scrutiny should be higher too. as for your statements, they are mostly factually correct. but investigation is like science, it takes effort. even a mere factual list of hillary's negative episodes would be quite long. you seem to concede nothing. "no accusation ever proved." LOL! your endorsement of hillary amounts to a sort of belief system that cant countenance opposing information. there are many books/ accounts of her negatives. some supporters are blind to them. as for alex jones/ veterans today, they have scooped a lot of MSM stories in important ways. the info is very nonmainstream and admittedly it will be very hard for "consensus reality" denizens to grasp much of it. thx for your comment! :P


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