The Tea Baggers incessantly bray that the "free market" solves all ills. So, today we find that DeVos is paying back her donors.

Students who attended for-profit colleges filed nearly 99 percent of the requests for student loan forgiveness alleging fraud, according to [The Century Foundation] the [sic] a liberal-leaning think tank.

Education should be priced at the students' additional life time earnings, discounted.

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Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on December 20, 2017 at 4:01pm

"Education should be priced at the students' additional life time earnings, discounted."

My...  how very elitist, entitled and white privileged you are!

I suppose you think you understand this issue better than John Adams when he said,

"The whole people must take upon themselves the education of the whole people and must be willing to bear the expense of it."  

Your "priced at the students' additional life time earnings" doesn't exactly do that, now does it?

I'd also challenge you to determine the actual cost. For example, are you including the "cost" things like a HUGELY lower number of college graduates ever need social assistance?  Does it include the fact that a better educated populous statistically makes better decisions, thereby resulting in HUGELY less incarcerations? Etc., etc., etc...

...but, of course you aren't going to believe little 'ol me (you misogynistic git!), so maybe you'll listen to this guy...

"In the richest country in the history of the world, everyone who has the desire and the ability should be able to get a college education regardless of their background and ability to pay."

~ Bernie Sanders

(...and yeah, I know your Clinton loving, elitist ass won't listen to him either, but still...)

Comment by Robert Young on December 20, 2017 at 4:27pm

she who laughs last doesn't get it.  so, I'll explain:  that statement was channeling DeVos/Trump/Ryan and the like.

Comment by Maui Surfer on December 20, 2017 at 8:34pm

Wow, talk about not being able to get a joke. And while most jokes can be funny in one way or another, I just can't help it but feel a certain feeling when a University of Phoenix diploma arrives across my desk inserted in a CV. Lets face it, the Right just can't handle the truth, or find enough desperados to "teach" many of the so called classes they include in for profit curricula. As a result, you get private institutions that dispense absolute bullshit like opposition to climate change, and instructors who are just any Tom, Dick or Mary off the street themselves, often without any credential but who have some form of attachment to a subject but no true training, and certainly no prior experience as teachers. But, it many want degrees and it sure is easy to just take out a loan from the recruiting office than do well in high school and gain admission to a University of Repute. Anyway, DeVos' family has managed to mangle both higher education and the military, what a combination and there is no telling how long or if ever, America will recover. We certainly have not done well in Iraq no thanks to Blackwater, and UoP and other for sale diplomas are hardly brimming over the tops of engineering or any other top flight skill set critical to the new economy.

Comment by Tom Cordle on December 20, 2017 at 9:18pm

I've was tangentially involved with Full Sail , which purports to educate young folks for work in the glamorous music and film industries (those of us who've worked in those businesses know they are far from glamorous), in that I worked on building a recording studio for them. Far as I could tell, it was a scam, though at least it wasn't as godawful as Trump University. I suspect a lot of those students claiming fraud were victims of these sorts of "educational institutions", where students pay tuition and fees that often every bit the equal of real colleges and get little for it besides a diploma to hang out the wall. What these outfits generally don't have and don't invest in is placement services for their graduates. You can add DeVry and a whole host of other outfits to the list of dubious educational outfits.


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