Conversation with my daughter yesterday

My daughter, seventeen, is as usual telling me I don’t understand her generation, mainly because I’m old, and of course I’ve never been young. 

“When I was your age, we all had three noses. Do you have any idea what it’s like to have to live with three...”

”Dad, my generation eats Tide Pods.”

Checkmate.

Today she related that story to my wife, who told her that for our generation it was too inconvenient to measure the detergent. 

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Comment by Ron Powell on February 14, 2018 at 1:02pm

@Amy;  "Ron, isn't it usually YOU (including using a quote from me!) that stresses that we need to deal with our own demographic if we want progress? "

That puts me in with old black people.. And, yes a lot of them need to get the hell out of the way....But, as I see it. old black people aren't at the core of the problem....

Hope  Hicks, 29

Stephen Miller, 32

Jared Kushner, 37

Donald Trump, Jr, 40

Which group does this youthful bunch of top level presidential advisers fall under?

My son is ten years older than the dean of this crew...Tha most likely would make him older than you....

Comment by koshersalaami on February 14, 2018 at 1:04pm

How old are Dr. Ben Carson and Herman Cain?

Which group does this old bunch of Presidential candidates fall under? 

That’s the logic you’re using. The only quantified data presented here on this question so far is Amy’s. Find me a demographic and I can probably find a couple of axe murderers in it if I search enough. 

Though I still want to know what she just accused me of. 

Comment by Ron Powell on February 14, 2018 at 3:30pm

@Kosh;  "The only quantified data presented here on this question so far is Amy’s."

True, but I believe that it's either misplaced or misused.

 "...we don't function well as human beings if there is no acknowledgement of, and commitment to, that which makes us human..."

Nothing about Amy’s  graphic reflects this...

Either Cain or Carson would be better at being the President of the United States than Trump.... 

Comment by koshersalaami on February 14, 2018 at 3:50pm

This is true.

What Amy’s graphic does suggest is that those of the younger generations who do vote vote more responsibly collectively than those of our generations. 

And no one here agrees with your assessment of those generations. 

Comment by cheshyre on February 14, 2018 at 4:00pm

I think it would be a funny exercise to post quotes from throughout history bashing the youth of the day and then try to match the dates to them. Every generation is the same. Only the times change.

Comment by Ron Powell on February 14, 2018 at 4:03pm

@Kos; Your first comment on the matter seemed fairly well consistent with my point:

"They are shaped by their experiences, and by what they haven’t experienced. Sometimes it’s hard to remember just how different their experiences are. They have no memory of universal economic hope in America. They have no memory of America having a credible military adversary. They have no memory of a large and powerful part of the world trying to export a revolution that eliminated freedom of speech and freedom of the press and could get you arrested without a real trial for disagreeing with the government. They just think we’re big and oppressive or that we’re great for some unexplained reason involving weird allusions to freedom. They have no memory of the country being united around cultural events. They have no memory of partisan politics being civil and cooperative. 

They don’t get that, as Doc Vega has pointed out, Cuba used to execute dissidents. They don’t get that the US is still different from large parts of the world in ways that are desirable and moral. 

They don’t get that not all cultures are morally equal because they’ve never been physically threatened by cultures that aren’t. 

We don’t know how they’d react if they saw real threats."

Comment by koshersalaami on February 14, 2018 at 4:03pm

There are frighteningly current ones concerning such things as respect for elders that date from the Roman Empire. 

Comment by koshersalaami on February 14, 2018 at 4:05pm

Ron, the point was inconsistent with your point in one respect:

You said they wouldn’t react if faced with a grave threat. We don’t know. They haven’t been tested by that kind of threat, at least that they’ve figured out. 

I hesitate to look at this generation or this pair of generations and blame them for what their circumstances have produced. That formula is too well abused in racism. 

Comment by Ron Powell on February 14, 2018 at 4:40pm

"We don’t know how they’d react if they saw real threats."

Trump is a "real threat"!

Our generation would have filled the streets in protest...Mayor Dailey and his police department created the riots in Chicago that cost the Democrats the election that year....

What happened to the Occupy Movement? BLM is not gaining any traction to speak of. Amy's  Green Party isn't going anywhere any time soon....

1968, The year I graduated from college...

The year King and Kennedy were assassinated.

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/conventions/chicago/facts/chica...

Comment by koshersalaami on February 14, 2018 at 7:27pm

Trump isn’t the kind of threat like having their houses nuked or being drafted for war or Jim Crow. 

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