Apres Surf and I just returned to see the Drumpf Confederate Yankee coalition totally Benedict Arnolded by a disheveled drunk.

Who is going to get the conversation started on this? Come on people, we've the majority of us been predicting this for one year and some change now, well, here it is, the whole nine yards ... Little Donnie is a seditious traitor, Big Donnie has the worst case of both ADDH and NPD ever recorded. Sarah Sanders is the worst and snoddiest liar seen in public for decades. Papadapolous can't even handle a few drinks, and tries to match shots with Aussies! Flynn took the money because he thought no one would ever notice, and was about to go after 50 million to grab a dude in a robe and Shanghai him to Turkey .... and, it turns out, everyone already talks constantly about how stupid Eric and Ivanka are in real life while Kushner is simply a desperate crook out to find any ruble or bitcoin he can to stay out of his Poppa-in-Law's profession: Bankruptcy.

Hang on cause here we go ...

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Comment by alsoknownas on January 3, 2018 at 3:21pm

The first fun stuff in awhile.

Comment by koshersalaami on January 3, 2018 at 4:31pm

I guess you are going to get the conversation started on this. 

So I have a question:

How did Hillary manage to lose to a guy who didn't want to win?

Comment by Maui Surfer on January 3, 2018 at 6:43pm

Kosh- the Russians know the Internet so much better than nearly every US engineer. Whether anyone believes me or not concerns me not, I know it is true, I worked at Pearl Harbor, can't say more than that, but, they used the credulity of haters, and that is what they are, haters, fuck this economic uncertainty excuse? In Michigan? Where Obama and the Dems saved the Auto Industry? Really! Anyway, there are all sorts of ways to both use machine learning and artificial intelligence with algorithms to see patterns, and they saw the hating pattern in Michigan, and similar ones in Ohio and Pennsylvania. They used Facebook ads that are so cheap the whole mess didn't even cost much. And it worked like a charm, so here we are, but, Trump is a crook with more skeletons in his closet than a Halloween store and Mueller is going to take Papadapolous and his little drinking binge along with a few other more than slight banking problems and fry this Roy Cohn devotee.

Comment by Ron Powell on January 3, 2018 at 8:56pm

"How did Hillary manage to lose to a guy who didn't want to win?"

That’s easy:

Instead of running a political campaign, she and her staff and the DNC ran a 'pre-coronation' road show that was repleat with the same mistake(s) she made when running against Obama. The number one mistake being that she over estimated herself while underestimating the charismatic draw of her opponent and the numerical strength of the supporters and followers....

No Democrat can lose Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin and expect to win a national election...She took the rust belt for granted and didn't visit the region at propitious and opportune times....

A final note...Had she picked Elizabeth Warren for a running mate she would have had the knock out punch she needed to win...

As far as I'm concerned she let her ego get in the way of solid and sound political strategy and it has cost the entire country more than 60 years of struggle for the things that Trump is bound and determined to dismantle and deconstruct....

She should take her sorry ass off into a corner somewhere, sit the fuck down, and shut the fuck up....

Boobage and buttage, indeed!

Comment by Maui Surfer on January 3, 2018 at 9:10pm

Ron, I totally agree. We're both right imho. Further, I blame Bill Clinton directly. He was the most phony cat you could ever see, trying to be everything to everybody, but really just being a lech. The Dems blew it big time, but, they still would have won if the Russians didn't take advantage of the incredible incredulous credulity of Rust Belt voters. Again, how do you vote against the party that re-built your main industry Michigan, and vote for the one that said to let it DIE, out loud, over and over again.

Comment by koshersalaami on January 3, 2018 at 9:20pm

That last question is excellent. Of course, Obama didn't make a big deal out of that in the campaign, and it was his deal. 

Comment by Tom Cordle on January 5, 2018 at 9:21am

As a friend of mine was fond of saying, opinions are like assholes – everybody has one. I'd add that uniformed assholes seem to have a lot more opinions than informed citizens – or at least they express them a lot more frequently and vociferously. Keep that in mind as I offer a few opinions of my own ... vociferously.

The tRump victory – and first of all, only under our archaic system is a loser by nearly three million votes declared the winner – was the consequence of many factors, including the aforementioned Russian abuse of social media (media which spreads ignorance and promotes propaganda, and is thus, in and of itself, a threat to democracy). But there is far more to this story.

This diminution of democracy and cancer in the body politic goes back to the very founding of this nation, when an elite group of landed gentry, many of whom were slave-owners, declared "all men created equal and endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable rights", while at the same time denying one of the most basic human rights – at least in a democracy – the right to vote, to black men and women, red men and women, white women, and even to white men who did not own property. Perhaps worse, for the benefit of slave-owners, they declared black persons three-fifths of a human being, though they continued to pass laws that treated such persons as livestock.

Despite that perfidy and hypocrisy, the country somehow manged to limp along for almost a century. But the perfidy and cowardice of the Founders ultimately resulted in a bloody Civil War, a war that ostensibly ended a century-and-a-half ago, but in fact continues to the present-day in Congress, and even more regrettably in a substantial portion of the country and among a substantial portion of the populace. That war ostensibly granted the vote to black men (though in practice they did not receive that most basic right for another hundred years). And women would have to wait until 1920 to receive that right.

All this inevitably led, over time, to the diminution of our democracy. But n my opinion, the Civil Rights legislation of the Sixties was the precipitate cause of the present sorry state of affairs. While that legislation was laudable – and long overdue, one unintended consequence was the wholesale migration of the most reactionary elements of the Democratic Party to the Republican Party, a party that was already overly reactionary.

Indeed, a substantial portion of blue-collar Democrats jumped the shark. Some, including my own father, voted for despicable racist George Wallace. Thus, they cursed the country with Dick Nixon, the man who most closely resembles the current occupant, when it comes to moral turpitude, paranoia and autocratic impulses.

Having learned nothing from their mistake, these same former diehard Democrats again voted against their own best interests in the persons of Ronald W. Reagan and George W. Bush. And having learned nothing from those mistakes, they voted for the obviously utterly unfit and morally corrupt Donald J Trump. In all this, they were tacitly supported by millions who couldn't be bothered to vote, and millions who threw away their vote on unsubstantial and unqualified fringe candidates.

This inability to learn from past mistakes, begs the question: Can this noble experiment in self-government survive ignorance and indifference? The jury remains out, but I suspect we will get a powerful hint about the verdict come November of this year.

Comment by koshersalaami on January 5, 2018 at 10:12am

Tom,

I agree about the upcoming verdict and I agree about its significance.

I hated Nixon when he was President and I get what comparison you’re making, but Nixon was a ridiculously superior President to Trump. There was a lot to hate there but I don’t remember anyone questioning his competence. I don’t mean his sanity, I mean his competence. Nixon was no fool. He was fully qualified in his office and he accomplished things that are sometimes forgotten in the aftermath of Watergate. He founded EPA, utterly amazing for a Republican. He did get us out of Vietnam - wasn’t pretty, but we left. He opened relations with China - and people too young to remember that (not like us) have no idea how little we knew about China in the late sixties because we had no contact with them. He helped limit American and Soviet nuclear weapons. He wouldn’t have dreamed of keeping business interests in the White House. He wouldn’t have dreamed of casually mishandling international relations. And, completely opposite of Trump, he understood what he did for a living. He did what he could to maximize the international position of his country, not out of misplaced bravado but out of knowing completely what the Hell he was doing. Listening to his debates with Kennedy could make you cry - we don’t see heavyweights like that any more. There have been so many times since where we look at Presidential candidates and, from a knowledge and competence standpoint, say “Really?” In that respect, Nixon looked down on Reagan, and he was right. 

If Nixon reminds me of anyone, it’s Hillary, not from the standpoint of expediency - though the DNC shows some of that - but from the standpoint of extreme competence and intelligence coupled with introversion that was politically crippling. Neither could talk to the public and both inspired vitriolic hatred because they couldn’t. 

Comment by Tom Cordle on January 5, 2018 at 2:57pm

Koisher
Agreed on Nixon's intellect and experience, but where I compared him to tRump was moral turpitude, paranoia and autocratic impulses, and I certainly think that is the case.

Comment by Maui Surfer on January 5, 2018 at 3:24pm

Kosh and Tom, again, imho you are both right. Drumpf is everything crazy about Nixon: Paranoia, Narcissism, etc. etc. etc. along with a real willingness to use the Governments power to literally physically hurt various groups of citizens, on purpose, with a malicious intent. But, Nixon was also so similar to Hillary, as well versed in international relations and global politics as anyone on the planet, capable of naming leaders of actual countries the Confederate Yankee does not even know exist, but, totally walled off from such a large number of the population through hubris, intentional Republican sabotage, yes, a Right Wing Conspiracy, and, the worst to me, entitlement- "it was my turn, this is the party we control." Well, neither holds up well herstorically though Drumpf will certainly make most pine for a re-try on giving Hillary the reigns, in fact he already has if even half of the book is true.

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