If an Antifa Assaults a White Supremacist and is Shot, is it Murder?

terry and Amy and Nana all made HATEFILLED COMMENTS, which, under my new policy of Absolute Free Speech, I deleted as being too hate filled to be viewed by the delicate readers of Oursalon. Fear not, they will reappear for your viewing pleasure in a posting of Juicy Cow Fart Comments (Bullshit and Hot Air) when the current technical difficulties have passed.

I'll rephrase the question posed here, since it will become topical

Let's say I'm out taking part in a peaceful protest on either side of an issue, and someone approaches me with obvious intent to strike me with either a club or a knife. I will at that point, pull out the north American arms .22 magnum revolver that is cleverly concealed in a sunglass case, and put five rounds center mass on the assailant. This is what is known as Self Defense, especially in a stand your ground state. Clearly, a justifiable homicide.

Or do you think otherwise?

THAT is the discussion that will soon be current if many more demonstrations like berkeley are allowed to take place. And no, you can't prevent the White separatists from holding protests by banning them..... First Amendment, don't you know.


original posting

Don't you just HATE! Haters?



 So here's the coming situation. Pro free speech demonstrators march on Berkeley, only to be met by AntiFa “Social Justice Warriors” armed with clubs and and knives who attack the pro speech rally, causing broken bones and crushed skulls.

The Berkeley police do nothing.

From somewhere on the flank of the melee, a pro speech marcher opens up with a mac-10, saving the life of a fellow protester who is being clubbed to death by Antifa thugs.

Three thugs are killed.

OK Judge Judy, sort this one out for me.....

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Comment by alsoknownas on September 2, 2017 at 2:36pm

The forethought of malice by showing up at a hot button (peaceful or not) demonstration, with a concealed pistol, could cause a jury to see it as negligent homicide.

So no...to the question.

Comment by Terry McKenna on September 2, 2017 at 2:41pm

I don't believe I said something hate filled.  But I do believe I asked you something.  Did you answer? 

Comment by Jonathan Wolfman on September 2, 2017 at 3:00pm

clearly that would depend on the specific circumstances and applicable state law    your question cannot be answered

Comment by moki ikom on September 2, 2017 at 3:18pm


if the dead alleged antifa happened to actually be an undercover, false flag militant,  it’d be called a friendly fire event, not murder. 

Comment by Token on September 2, 2017 at 4:18pm


I have a concealed carry permit and am in full compliance with the law

Comment by Token on September 2, 2017 at 4:29pm


"Comment by Terry McKenna 5 hours ago
From time to time my commute on a NJ Transit train is interrupted because of a suicide.  I never cease to be annoyed at those who decided to take there last walk in front of my commuter train."

I find this comment extremely insensitive and hate filled. Besides, using the standards of "the new free speech," I get to define "Hate Speech", so that just naturally includes anything you say.
As to a question? I didn't see one..... unless you mean your "Really Token - free speech?".. which I presume you mean to refer to the original free speech march, and not the antifa suppression thereof..... come on, terry, whether you agree or not, and particularly if you don't, there exists a first amendment right to peacefully gather to petition the government... for you to deny that they had that right is the height of Hypocrisy. (Which I find HATEFUL!.)
Comment by Token on September 2, 2017 at 4:30pm


just give me a gut feeling.

Comment by Token on September 2, 2017 at 4:31pm


works for me

Comment by koshersalaami on September 3, 2017 at 7:52am

Conservative lives are worth 3/5 of liberal lives, and carving up all these eyes and teeth into fifths is messy and difficult, and I'm not a mathematician so I don't have a formula ready off the top of my head. 

Comment by Terry McKenna on September 3, 2017 at 10:32am

Curious standard for hate speech. 


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