Is there a connection between the apparent murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, and the sudden, unannounced but timely, resignation of Nikki Haley as American Ambassador to the UN?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/12/middleeast/khashoggi-saudi-turkey-re...

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Comment by alsoknownas on October 12, 2018 at 7:22am

OK. I read it. I don't get it.

Which dots are you connecting?

Comment by Ron Powell on October 12, 2018 at 9:08am

1. The Trump/Kushner relationship with Saudi money interests.

2. Trump's unwillingness or refusal to take action or speak out forcefully against Saudi involvement in the disappearance and likely murder of the journalist who was employed by the Washington Post.

3. The real possibility that US intelligence operatives had advance awareness of a Saudi plot against Khashoggi and Trump's capacity for turning an unethical and immoral blind eye and deaf ear where his priority is money....

4. Nikki Haley's tendency towards traditional conservative views re foreign affairs and the likelihood that if American intelligence had advance knowledge of the Saudi plot, she was aware of such information. 

5. The fact that Haley's resignation is dated October 3rd which would put her resignation ahead of the events leading directly to the disappearance/murder of the journalist at the Saudi Consulate in Turkey.

6. Trump's refusal to allow her to speak up and speak out on this matter at the UN would, in many ways, taint her credibility, stature, and status. It would cause questions to be raised re whether she was, in some way, complicit in the matter.

7. Haley's desire to avoid and avert any kind of legal entanglement which would destroy her political ambitions...

8. She's smart enough to know that getting out now is much better for her than leaving under any kind of cloud of suspicion and intrigue....

Hope that's enough dots for you to mull over...

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on October 12, 2018 at 9:24am

The link between Jamal Khashoggi's murder and Nikki Haley's resignation is John Bolton.

  • Khashoggi was a vocal critic of the current Saudi leadership (especially Saudi Arabia's stance towards Iran).
  • Bolton has close ties with the current Saudi leadership (especially Prince Muhammad bin Salman) because they both want the US to attack Iran, Syria and Yemen and because they both have congenial and extensive back channel relations with Israel.=.
  • There is strong evidence that Bolton, as National Security Adviser to Trump, was aware of the US intelligence reports about the pending Saudi plot to kidnap/murder Khashoggi. 
  • Haley recently appeared to be in conflict with Bolton, in spite of them both greatly agreeing on US policies regarding Russia, Israel, Syria, Israel, etc. (i.e. every damn thing BUT Saudi Arabia)
  • That would lead one to believe that Haley had issues with the Saudi's plan to murder Khashoggi.
  • Haley also had issues with Saudi Arabia's stance on human rights, as evidenced by her comments regarding Saudi Arabia's human rights abuses.
  • It is TOTALLY feasible that Bolton leaked the corruption intelligence about Haley because he has a track record of back stabbing anyone who disagrees with him, especially when their actions effect people/regimes that he considers to be allies.
  • Haley's real reason (her "fatigue" excuse is pure BS spin) is because of the allegations regarding her corruption investigation. (evidence of which Bolton would surely have used to get her to resign).

(and, yes...  a lot of these links are pure conjecture and supposition on my part, but if that Occam's razor's "the simplest solution tends to be the right one" is legit then I think my guesstimates are pretty valid.

Comment by Ron Powell on October 12, 2018 at 9:30am

One more reaso:

Nikki Haley simply cannot afford the legal representation that would be required to extricate her from yet another Trump scandal and debacle....

Comment by Ron Powell on October 12, 2018 at 9:30am

@Amy; We're on the same page....

Comment by Rodney Roe on October 12, 2018 at 1:31pm

I thought in a somewhat less tangled way that

1.)Nikki is probably thinking of running against Trump, and now is time to distance herself ahead of the elections next month, and

2) Nikki is a basically ethical person who may have thought that she could stay out of the Trump sewer, but now feels pulled toward the drain hole and needs to break free.

I admit to being too naive to imagine conspiracies.

Comment by alsoknownas on October 12, 2018 at 2:19pm

@ Rodney,

I can imagine them but that was not the challenge. I'm basically running on about 4 hrs. of sleep per night in the process of moving out of a house I've been in for 40 years...

...and because I am not in school, I figured that since the poster proclaimed this week that if one doesn't get it then they should just say so, that I would try that method.

The two postings here do provide food for thought. 

Comment by Dicky Neely on October 14, 2018 at 11:49am

I don't know about some of this. In my opinion she wants to seek "higher" office in the near or even immediate future and she knows she can cut ties with Trump and exit fairly untarnished. I think it is very possible that she, Rick Perry, and Ben Carson were picked to be in the administration to neutralize them in their Presidential ambitions.

Comment by Dicky Neely on October 14, 2018 at 11:51am

Gosh, I guess I should have read these comments more thouroughly! I see others here expressing some the same points as I! Well, perhaps that is close to the truth!

Comment by Ben Sen on October 15, 2018 at 11:42am

I think she got out while the gettin' was good for lots of reasons, that will probably not be fully known unless our friend in the White House wasn't her and is still at large.  One thing for sure: she's a smooth operator.  How she was able to mouth all that bull shit is beyond me.

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