A Question About Repartee, Trading Fours, and the Dozens

Definition of repartee 1a : a quick and witty reply b : a succession or interchange of clever retorts : amusing and usually light sparring with words 2 : adroitness and cleverness in reply : skill in repartee...

Trading Fours is a technique in which musicians consistently alternate brief solos of pre-set length (for trading foursfourbars; musicians may also trade twos, eights, and so forth). Trading foursusually occurs after each musician has had a chance to play a solo, and often involves alternating four-bar segments with the drummer.

The Dozens is a game of spoken words between two contestants, common in black communities of the United States, where participants insult each other until one gives up. It is customary for the Dozens to be played in front of an audience of bystanders, who encourage the participants to reply with increasingly egregious insults in order to heighten the tension and, consequently, make the contest more interesting to watch. It is also known as "blazing", "hiking", "roasting", "capping", "clowning", "ranking", "ragging", "rekking", "crumming", "sounding", "checkin", "joning", "woofing", "wolfing", "sigging", or "signifying",[1][2] while the insults themselves are known as "snaps".[3][4]

Comments in the game focus on the opposite player's intelligence, appearance, competency, social status, and financial situation. Disparaging remarks about the other player's family members are common: especially mothers ("yo′ mama...")—to the extent that those outside the African-American community often use the specific term "yo momma jokes" incorrectly to refer to the Dozens.


So here's the question:

Which of these forms of interaction should a white person avoid when interacting with a black person?

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Comment by Ron Powell on April 8, 2019 at 10:23pm

"...nothing has ever been more appropriated than Hip Hop..."

White kids referring to one another with the "n" word does not "hit it out of the park".

The real homerun hitters are the white people like Tim Wise who will engage in exchanges with other white people to promote appreciation and understanding of the relationship between the black experience and white privilege:

Comment by Ron Powell on April 8, 2019 at 10:45pm
Comment by Maui Surfer on April 9, 2019 at 10:57am

There is never a time for appropriating the n-word by a w**@%&, but, appropriating the dozens? Method Man can do so, so he does ... and he brings along white model Hailey Baldwin for the ride, and the bucks, who would serve as his Tim Wise, a man I admire greatly?

Comment by alsoknownas on April 9, 2019 at 2:06pm

Maui Surfer,

 Around 1975 I was introduced to the music of Raymond Kane, Ledward Kapaana, Keola Beamer, Sonny Chillingsworth and others. I began to collect vinyl and later on cassettes and DVD's.

The large open voiced chords and chiming harmonics drew me in. There were definite relationships to the music I was more familiar with playing having had the good fortune to have been with men such as Son House, Mance Lipscomb, Taj Mahal and others who played beyond any borders of politics or race.

 It is a style that is easier to hear and watch than play but I have had my fun over the years attempting to do so. You have inspired me to pull out my vinyl and I will thank you each time I drop something on the turntable in the near future.

Comment by Maui Surfer on April 9, 2019 at 2:42pm

aka- those are OG's: Ledward, Beamer and his brother too, Sonny the Master ... many others from the 70's which was our true Renaissance (we re-found our language and culture; it nearly died out) and a re-birth. Taj and others felt it in their soul, and many nights he'd play for us in Old Makawao Town. Peter Moon is another of this era, and he would end up playing with Music royalty from around the world. Even Uncle Don Ho played with Elvis ... that's the kind of Haole you need to be !, and you will fit right in and flourish. Vinyl is final.


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