I wrote to my Senators about the Kavanaugh nomination. This is from Chuck Schumer’s reply:

In considering a candidate for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, I have three main criteria: legal excellence, moderation and diversity. Judge Kavanaugh was picked from a list of 25 people who were vetted and approved by the Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation — special interest groups devoted to overturning Roe v. Wade, the court case protecting a woman’s right to choose. These groups have also made it their main mission to strike down the Affordable Care Act. Judge Kavanaugh was nominated because he passed these litmus tests, not because he will be an impartial judge on behalf of all Americans. So, I will oppose his nomination and continue to fight for a bipartisan rejection of this nominee and urge the President to put forth a moderate selection that both parties could support.”

Just in case you can’t tell the difference between a centrist Democrat and a Republican.

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Comment by koshersalaami on September 9, 2018 at 6:58am

I agree with the contention that he needs to explain himself. What I don’t understand is why his action leads specifically to the assumption that the quid pro quo involved is Israel. That amounts to an accusation that Schumer put a foreign country before his own while being heavily involved in the governing of his own country without specific evidence to back it up. Though the Senate is full of Zionists, that accusation doesn’t happen without Schumer being Jewish. 

I’m not saying it’s impossible that evidence will surface that he has done that. I’m saying that a lawyer should know better than to make an accusation based in part on the ethnicity of the accused without solid evidence. When Trump did that to an Hispanic judge, we all hit the ceiling. While your speculation does not fall completely under the definition of out and out accusation, it comes uncomfortably close. 

If the situation were reversed and anyone here - other than Doc Vega, who does so on a regular basis, and who I for one have answered on this from time to time - made a strong implication that a Black public official was doing something negative to his country based on his ethnicity, we’d all hear about it. And we should. Frankly, we’d hear about it from me if we didn’t from you. Or both. 

Comment by Ron Powell on September 9, 2018 at 7:39am

"...a lawyer should know better than to make an accusation based in part on the ethnicity..."

True...However, there is neither assumption or accusation in the inquiry....

In fact, an explanation removes doubt and  speculation... Schumer created the cause for both by agreeing to fast track nominations he should be delaying, deterring, or impeding....Thus opening himself up to criticism that might be erroneously couched in ethnicity....

If anyone should have been aware and wary, and super sensitive re such reactions it should have been him...

What did he think it would look like anyway?

How many times do you think Obama had to avoid such speculations and assumptions re legislative proposals concerning the interests of the African American community because of the optics and appearances, and the false or erroneous assumptions and speculation predicated on what his actions migh have "looked like" viz a viz the question/issue of racial preferences?

Were I in your position, I would write a letter of inquiry into the matter just to see whether a response is forthcoming and forthright....

Comment by J.P. Hart on September 9, 2018 at 7:42am

During a filibuster, a senator is limited to topics relevant to the bill being discussed and cannot eat, drink or use the restroom during the speech. The rules also prohibit sitting or leaning on a desk or chair under any circumstances when the senator has the floor and is speaking on the bill or resolution.Jun 25, 2013

Sorry, K, just had a shot of blackberry brandy and really should (you know) sign out, roger dat, sigh out harvest moon andi just overspent our Afterthougt, LLC coffers largely--eeek! over/under PACKERS BEARS

JPH
(no admiral's son)
(sides, as a creative, it's pretty durn hard to go beyond that John Hamm scene in Madmen when he says. [sic] '...Ginsburg!? Ginsburg? Why does he smell of urine ...?) & wasn't it distressing when Netanyahu made that end run around the Obama administration and started (what'd he do!?) buffing Sen. Mitch O'Connell's Guiccis?)

Comment by koshersalaami on September 9, 2018 at 9:12am

Ron,
When Obama had to handle that crap it didn’t come from me. I was on the other side of those arguments. 

When Schumer has to handle that crap it shouldn’t come from you. For exactly that reason, you should know better. 

Comment by Ron Powell on September 9, 2018 at 11:21am

Perhaps, but nevertheless the question should be raised and addressed....

I would like to know why he did what he did...

I would like to think that you do as well...

15 judges on the Federal Bench along with the others Trump has appointed will be ruling on matters that directly impact my life, my life style and my livelihood....

Evidently your circumstances and condition won't be effected at all...

That Schumer is a Jewish Zionist can't be discounted here without an affirmative statement or disclaimer from him explaining his actions... 

It's the political reality not a fantasized shibboleth...

What in he'll is Schumer doing and what does he mean by not doing all that could be done to intercept, impede, delay, or derail the judicial nominees of this abomination?

I'll accept any explanation or rationale other than Schumer's Zionism...If there is one to be had....

By the way, many Zionists see America's interests and Israel's interests as being in lock step and inextricably bound together...

That's not a 'dog whistle' assumption or accusation it happens to be a political reality of our time....

Comment by moki ikom on September 9, 2018 at 11:22am

How does this not "amount to a evidence that Schumer puts a foreign country before his own while being heavily involved in the governing of his own country." ? : 

Senator Schumer says God made him a guardian of Israel:

Now let me close by telling you about my name. As some of you know, my name is a Hebrew word. "Schumer" comes from the Hebrew word "Shomer," which means "guardian," "watchman." My ancestors were guardians of the ghetto wall of ? in Galicia, and when they came to Ellis Island, they said their name in Yiddish, "Shoymer". And it got written down as "Schumer." To you I say this: that name was given to me for a reason. For as long as I live, for as long as I have the privilege of serving in the Senate from New York, I will unflinchingly, unstintingly and with all of my strength be Shomer Yisrael, a guardian of Israel. Ladies and gentlemen, Am Yisrael Chai, in Israel and America, the Jewish nation lives now and forever. --Democrat Senator Charles  Schumer speaking at the AIPAC Annual Policy Conference in 2010

....

As you affirm Kosher, "the Senate is full of Zionists," but I wonder if you also believe that all those elected u.s. Zionists believe themselves to be appointed by God to advance Zionism in Palestine.  

Comment by moki ikom on September 9, 2018 at 11:22am

Same year as Schumer's above confession of allegiance to isrealHell in Palestine:

Am Yisrael Chai?

... Now, that slogan has been warped and distorted. It is no longer chanted by idealistic Jews who see their people’s survival as a human story of overcoming adversity. It is not an example to show to other oppressed people or groups facing discrimination.

No, now Am Yisrael Chai is a club being used to bludgeon not only Palestinians, but also anyone who might oppose Israeli policy. It is now a chant of a mindless mass of people, consumed with nationalistic zeal. It is now the slogan bullies paint on terrorized innocents forced out of their homes and businesses in Hebron. And it is now the chant used to ridicule young activists who will no longer tolerate lies, political manipulation and human rights abuses being committed in their name. ...

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Comment by koshersalaami on September 9, 2018 at 12:54pm

Ron,
I don’t appreciate your deliberate obtuseness. My point is not to defend Schumer about the fast track. That’s not even the point of the post, which is that there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to the critical Supreme Court justice confirmation votes. My point is not to deny Schumer’s Zionism. He’s a Zionist. So, for all practical purposes, is the vast majority of official Washington. 

My point is solely that you are implying strongly that the rationale for the fast track was a tradeoff concerning Israel without having specific evidence that it is. 

That assumption can be made specifically because Schumer is Jewish. He can express loyalty to his fellow Jews in Israel - which does not entail loyalty to the Israeli government and certainly doesn’t to Israeli policy - without being wiling to subject American citizens to the rulings of conservative judges, which is the specific implication here. (“Am Yisrael Chai” does not mean “Do what Netanyahu wants.” It means “the people of Israel live.”) I am a Jew and a Zionist but if I found that Schumer had participated in that trade I’d vote against him in his next primary for that alone. 

If you have evidence of such a tradeoff, present it. If you don’t, don’t assert it. It amounts to an accusation of putting Israel before America. 

Years ago on Open Salon, Bramhall posted an allegation that a series of neocons had dual citizenship. Actually, if you followed the list, the allegation was pretty much that all the Jewish neocons had dual citizenship, which would be of concern with all these guys in government. It amounted to grounds for the assumption that we could question the loyalty of anyone Jewish and Republican influential in Washington. These men presumably all had easy access to Israeli citizenship, as do I, but having that option and exercising it are two entirely different things. The allegation certainly surprised me so I went in search of verification on the net and could find none. It appeared to have been made up out of whole cloth by a single author. Not that I was especially anxious to defend neocons but the notion that the loyalty of Jews to America could automatically be questioned by virtue of our being Jews was both too toxic and too dangerous. When I pointed out to her that the accusation was unsubstantiated, she changed the accusation to “alleged.” Knowing her views, that was the best I could expect. 

Another blogger published the same accusation. When I pointed out to him that it was unsubstantiated, he refused to change it and continued to leave it up as fact. That blogger was Moki Ikom, which will give you the beginning of an idea as to why I take his views on Jews with a grain of salt. 

So, Ron, what kind of company are you in?

Comment by moki ikom on September 9, 2018 at 2:37pm

Kosh, i do not believe this is the exact list to which you above refer but fail to cite/link:

Israeli Dual Citizens in the
US Congress and the
Obama Administration

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION [Current] [9]

PAST OBAMA ADMINISTRATION [13]

112th CONGRESS 

THE US SENATE [13]

Richard Blumenthal (D-CT)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Benjamin Cardin (D-MD)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Al Franken (D-MN)
Herb Kohl (D-WI)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Joseph Lieberman (Independent-CT)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Bernard Sanders (Independent-VT)
Charles Schumer (D-NY)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Michael Bennet (D-CO)

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES [27]

Members of the US government with dual-citizenship to the US and Israel

I did research for this post. Look it up yourself, put in your own work. I also understand that some of this information might be a little dated now; it was originally posted in 2012. But, recently there have been comments which have accused me of doing no research. It said, “Did you just randomly pick a list of Jews? That is a bold face LIE. If the truth is available, why live in a propagandized world. It is not difficult to find the facts. First and foremost, I am a citizen of the United States of America, I love this country, more than any other country. If I defend my nation, by asking is it correct that so many in power should have dual citizenship to Israel and the US, then you sir are brainwashed. I love Israel and I believe totally in the right of Israel to exist and prosper. I also believe in Palestine and the right of the Palestinian people to live in peace on their own land, in their own country. So, drop the accusations to the truth. Just because I don’t want the United States of America to be run by Zionists, or for that matter Israelis, I apologize. Thank you. -- michaelruark.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/members-of-the-us-government-with-dual-citizenship-to-the-us-and-israel/

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Koshersalaami, "Just because I don’t want the United States of America to be run by Zionists, or for that matter Israelis," I don't apologize, while it bothers you not a whit that the United States of American is, can be or will be run by Zionists because like the above list you are Zionist whether you are dual citizen or not.  As regards being on such a list of alleged dual citizens, I seem to recall at least one individual on the above list who publicly denied his having dual citizenship.  Such denials should be enough to take one off the list.  Who on the list do you know who is not a dual USisrael citizen?  If you were on this list as an appointed or elected official being as you say "These men and women? with easy access to Israeli citizenship" and you were embraced by Zionist peers and leaders in Zionist functions you could not possibly refuse to attend and learn that "having that option and exercising it" are one and the same.

Comment by Ron Powell on September 9, 2018 at 5:01pm

I can keep my own company , thank you.

Every challenge to a person who happens to be Jewish isn't BECAUSE he/she is Jewish.

The question remains:

Why did Schumer fast track those appointments?

What is he up to?

There's nothing anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist in these questions.

There ie, however a strong hint of such if one asks: Did Schumer reciprocate because of Trump's designation of Jersalem as the capital of Israel?

But it's a strong hint because of the optics that are extant...Look for another reason or rationale for Schumer's action and you come up empty....Unless Schumer adequately fills in the blank, there is scant evidence of a viable alternative...

Seasoned politicians don't do as Schumer has done for no reason at all...

I am neither anti-Semitic, nor anti-Zionism. What I am is curious....

It is you, my friend,  who have presumed to assume to much...You, of all people here, should know me better than that...

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