I wrote to my Senators about the Kavanaugh nomination. This is from Chuck Schumer’s reply:

In considering a candidate for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, I have three main criteria: legal excellence, moderation and diversity. Judge Kavanaugh was picked from a list of 25 people who were vetted and approved by the Federalist Society and Heritage Foundation — special interest groups devoted to overturning Roe v. Wade, the court case protecting a woman’s right to choose. These groups have also made it their main mission to strike down the Affordable Care Act. Judge Kavanaugh was nominated because he passed these litmus tests, not because he will be an impartial judge on behalf of all Americans. So, I will oppose his nomination and continue to fight for a bipartisan rejection of this nominee and urge the President to put forth a moderate selection that both parties could support.”

Just in case you can’t tell the difference between a centrist Democrat and a Republican.

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Comment by koshersalaami on September 10, 2018 at 7:21pm

There was a comment by Amy here. She is not welcome to comment here so her comment has been deleted but I did read it and will answer it, at least in part. Not that I consider this a precedent. 

My reprimand of Doc was because I don’t like bigotry on my blog. Whether or not it is Amy who is the target of that bigotry is entirely beside the point. The last thing I’m worried about is currying favor with Amy; if I were worried about that, I’d consider letting her comment here. As if she’d ever reciprocate if she saw antisemitism she didn’t source. 

As to allowing cheap shots, no one who calls me KB has a right to call anyone on cheap shots. I get several a week, typically without even talking to her. Frankly, I don’t owe her the courtesy of this reply, but I’m in the mood to make it. 

Comment by moki ikom on September 10, 2018 at 9:32pm

I read the author to mean that those people he lists are (he alleges) in fact dual citizens, not just eligible to be dual citizens.  Maybe none of them are dual citizens, I don't know how one could find out.  It would seem that an elected or appointed u.s. government official should not only have to decalare his or her dual citizenship but should feel proud to do so; regardless, it should be that the electorate is able to be easily and truthfully informed of the matter regardless the nationalities involved.

  

Comment by koshersalaami on September 11, 2018 at 4:14am

If maybe none of them are dual citizens, why did you publish this guy?

Comment by moki ikom on September 12, 2018 at 1:09am

Why? well maybe, but for Bernie Sanders who asserts that he is not, they are all dual citizens?  Do you have reason to believe otherwise?  The more important and revealing issue to me is however not whether they are dual USisraeli citizens, whether they are Jew, Catholic, Protestant, Buddhist, agnostic or atheist but whether or not they are Zionist which issue you addressed in a previous response to Ron by saying, " ... the Senate is full of Zionists."  Could not the same be said of Congress as a whole and the executive branch, regardless political party?

Comment by koshersalaami on September 12, 2018 at 4:27am

You generally conflate the US and Israel. I don’t. As such, I look at Zionism among American officials very differently than you do. All it means to me is dedication to Israel’s continued existence. It doesn’t mean supporting Likud. In that respect, yes, the same could be said of Congress as a whole and the Executive Branch, regardless of political party. 

Do I have reason to believe otherwise, by which I think you mean that all these people are dual citizens? Yes. 

Comment by moki ikom on September 12, 2018 at 1:32pm

For as many years as you and i frequented open and ours  posts and comments, for you to assert that it is I who conflates the U.S. and israel -more precisely: it is, you write, “conflate the US and Israel”- is not just a little bizarre, the assertion begs to be argumentative in which arena at least by now the words and abbreviations we each use should be mutually realized to mean close to the same thing by both of us.

Firstly (for terrorUSt$, terrorUSts, even terrorUSt i often shorten to US), i seldom to never write just “US” to mean either the U.S. or the United States, and i never write “the US” as you do to mean “the U.S.”.   I am a citizen of the U.S., not “the US”; the latter written acronym for U.S. being indistinguishable to me from the word “Us” just as to me Us is indistinguishable from the word exceptionalUSts, terrorUSts, capitalUSts, corporatUSts, fascUSts and yes of course zionUSts.  It would help raise the quality of our banter but I fully don’t expect you to concede a point here by deflating your contention that the written “the US” and “the U.S.” should not to me be as conflatable* as it is to you.

Secondly, were we at least to resolve to our mutual satisfaction something as simple and straightforward as acronyms and abbreviations, there remains to argue the ideology and existential nuance of Zionism,, of Herzl’s zionism, Schumer’s zionism, Obama’s zionism, Wolfowitz’s zionism, your zionism, Likud zionism, Baptist zionism, Catholic zionism, Palestine zionism, my zionism, Ayatolla zionism, Assad zionism, Hussein(jordan), Hussein(iraq) zionism… in other words, like all ideologies, Zionism manifests as an idea unique to the warm human brain tissue of the sentient individual so fortunate as to be capable of possessing ideas.

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*No adjective seems to have survived, though conflatable "capable of being conflated" is certainly a potentiality.

ar·gu·men·ta·tive :  using or characterized by systematic reasoning."the highest standards of argumentative rigor

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Argumentation, Ideology, and Issue Framing in Parliamentary Discourse

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In argumentative political speech, the way an issue is framed may indicate the unstated assumptions of the argument and hence the ideological position of the speaker. Our goal is to use and extend our prior work on discourse parsing and the identification of argumentation schemes to identify specific instances of issue framing and, more generally, ideological positions as they are expressed in text.

Introduction A key aspect of any argument is the unstated assumptions and beliefs that underlie it. At bottom, all naturally occurring arguments are enthymematic. Our research in argumentation has the long-term goal of identifying these unstated elements, both at the micro level — the specific unstated premises of an argument — and at the macro level — the belief system or ideology within which the entire argument is constructed, which may in turn contribute to its unstated premises (and also to any unstated conclusions).  … — http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-1341/paper6.pd

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Comment by koshersalaami on September 12, 2018 at 3:32pm

I left out the periods for convenience.

Comment by Maui Surfer on September 12, 2018 at 11:31pm

You know what Y'all? I almost hope Kavanaugh is confirmed, because if you think the X'ers and Millennials and Y women, and men, who have grown up their whole lives with Civil Rights that say they alone control their reproduction, then we will soon find out if we have another nineteen sixties on our hands, if millions of people will hit the streets, and if we just don't find a way to end LIFETIME appointments of conservative pieces of shit in a highly explosive manner.

Comment by koshersalaami on September 13, 2018 at 3:56am

Hoping Kavanaugh is confirmed is like hoping Trump gets elected was. Not the best idea.

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