A recent episode of “The Allusionist”, a podcast that deals with words, dealt with accents, and to a lesser extent dialect.  Episode #63, The Evolution of Accents, was broadcast courtesy of Twenty Thousand Hertz, which is a podcast about sound.  Helen Zalzberg, the Allusionist, asked and they agreed to share.

Briefly, the show started with the evolution of modern English – from 1500 to present – and expanded on the English from the 1600s on during the time that Britain colonized North America.

What was pointed out is that Britain has hundreds of accents, and the accent that we think of as typically British, commonly known as Received Pronunciation or RP, is a contrived accent invented with the intent of preventing miscommunication, as Britain colonized the world, between those still on the island and those in the hinterlands.

Going over all of the differences between accents in the south of England, those in the midlands, and those from the northeast is too great a discussion for here, and I’m frankly confused by many of the accents.  What was mentioned casually is that accents serve to differentiate speakers.  We move toward an accent to differentiate ourselves into geographic and social tribes. We resist sameness except within our own group where it is stressed.

So, if you have an accent from the southern U.S. – other than Florida – you will be recognized as a Southerner by English speakers in the rest of the nation, but among Southerners even slight variations are recognized and an individual can be identified as “not from around here.”  The accent serves to identify an individual as having values and a background similar to yours, or not.  The more dissimilar the more suspicious one becomes that you may be different.

Vowel shifts, consonant shifts, word order and the use of different words for the same concept all serve the purposes of accent and dialect to define one.

Furthermore, minorities change faster than majorities in accent and dialect.

Londoners from the poorer sections have had an almost secret language of slang that changes rapidly and prevents those from the outside from knowing what is being discussed.  This process apparently began as thieves and street hustlers moved among outsiders.

In the U.S. the rapid process of vowel shifts that became associated with “Valley Girl” affected the way teens talked and it is now mainstream among those under 50.  Not to be confused with Valley Girls, the Kardashians developed the strangled sound that distinguishes them and their would-be socialebrities from everyone else.

Other minority groups like those in the LGBTQ community have used their own jargon to distinguish themselves from the straight world.  Likewise, African-Americans have had a rapidly evolving speech that has served the same purpose.  Those on the outside use any of these words or phrases at their own risk because the terms rapidly become passe or the meanings change.  Furthermore, some of the words used may be permissible for insiders but derogatory for outsiders.

Consequently, black Americans can call each other Niggah, but white people cannot use the “N” word.  That’s as it should be, but personally, I don’t understand why the word is used at all, in any form.  But, I understand that it is a form of social bonding.  For about a month someone sent me texts thinking I was someone else.  The first one read something like this, “Yo this Britney. This my new number. Wot up,my niggah?”  Finally, after getting a lot of those,  I texted back telling her that she had the wrong number.  Her response was, “You sure?”  Pretty sure.

In the late 1970s my wife worked in retail and became friends with a gay co-worker, Robin.  The two both loved dancing, and Robin came to the house where they would practice disco routines.  We began going to clubs where the two of them danced, and then we got invited to the gay disco clubs.  Consequently, we got inundated with the language.  Some of the gay men used to jokingly call L their little “fag hag”.  We knew what it meant; a woman who hung out with gay men.  Some were socially inept, some had been badly hurt by straight men, and some were homely.  But some were like L. At the time it didn’t seem particularly offensive.  Maybe the term has taken on a different meaning, because I used it recently to make a point and was called down for using a hateful, derogatory slur.  So, the comment was edited.

This is the danger of using “insider” language.  Any outsider runs the risk of getting it wrong.  It may only mark you as “not from around here”, or it may be seen as hateful and offensive.

Accents are difficult to convey in a podcast and impossible in writing.  Dialects can be written, but can get one in trouble.  Mark Twain, who has been called the Father of American Literature, has recently been castigated for the use of the “N” word.  What he did at the time - write the way average Americans talked - was not well received by the Eastern elite, even then, not because of the “N” word, but because it was too vulgar, as in the original meaning of the word, common.  The gift of Twain’s writing is that it directly addressed issues of race and privilege and preserved the spoken language of the average person at the time for future generations.

Even Twain’s wife, Livy, was offended by Huckleberry Finn.  She reportedly read the book, set it aside, and didn’t talk to her husband for several days.  The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is now considered a classic.

Y’uns have a good day.

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Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on August 9, 2018 at 10:41am

"As for the use of derogatory terms, at least in relation to the LGBTQ community (something I know about because I actual am involved in it, unlike others who are just making shit up), like fag hag, fag stag, faggot, he-she, tranny, homo, queer, dyke, etc., etc. etc... "

Well, thanks, I guess,  for proving my point about the type of people who use homophobic, derogatory terms for LGBT people, MF.

Comment by Maui Surfer 16 hours ago

...SBA --- you may be queer...

Comment by Maui Surfer on August 9, 2018 at 11:16am

F.U. SBA- for the last time Polynesian cultures are not homophobic, we accepted reality thousands of years ago. BTW, I don't use it because of my age, but lots of my little gay surf buds call themselves queer, hear it all the time. Also here it in Oakland, the capital of Lesbos, you should get off the farm Dorothy and get out there more ... might stay up on things. pretty pathetic having an old surfer take you to school ...

Comment by alsoknownas on August 9, 2018 at 11:56am

I do not understand the "Q" in LGBTQ.

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on August 9, 2018 at 2:11pm

F.U. right back MF -  First of all a straight person does NOT get to lecture me about MY community.  Implying that you know more about it is way past egotistical and deeply into psychotic.

Secondly, as an alleged straight person of color, you would be screaming your head off if one of those "fucking haoles" (racist much, btw?) told you it was perfectly fine for them to use the term "nigger" or call you or Ron a "nigger""Queer" is the LGBTQ's community version of "nigger" and some people are trying to reclaim it to eliminate it's stigma.  Having a straight person use it, especially in the derogatory, HOMOPHOBIC way you do is not EVER okay.

You are showing your true HOMOPHOBIC colors when you call an LGBT person a "queer", use terms like " little gay surf buds" and/or "the capital of Lesbos".  Stop it!

Comment by koshersalaami on August 9, 2018 at 2:23pm

So is it LGBT or LGBTQ and, if the Q is included, what does that indicate? I realize someone else just asked you that but I have the same question, particularly if Q is derogatory. 

Comment by Ron Powell on August 9, 2018 at 2:36pm

For a relatively comprehensive explanation of LGBT and LGBTQ etc see Wikipedia at:


Enlightenment on the topic at a rudimentary level...

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on August 9, 2018 at 2:43pm

"Q" can either be for "Questioning" = "Not sure if I'm LGBT, but I might be" or "queer" = which is the LGBT version of "nigger". (Which is why a lot of people who use LGBTQ actually type it LGBTQQ or LGBTQQIA to include intersex people and allies). 

Many LGBT people who DO refer to themselves as "queer" are people of color and who also refer to THEMSELVES as "niggers" showing it is same show/different channel.  It is their attempt at taking the power away from people who misuse it and they would be the first in a long line of people who would take grave exception with any straight/white person EVER using either of those words.

BTW, why do you think you can say "IF Q is derogatory."?  It isn't like ANYONE doesn't know Queer is a pejorative term.  That the LGBT community is trying to take it back out of the mouths of homophobic straight people doesn't make it any less so.

Comment by Ron Powell on August 9, 2018 at 3:14pm

Per Amy's explanation, "Questioning" makes better sense as a referent in the LGBTQ designation, which is becoming the ''official'' term for people of various non-straight sexual orientations and persuasions.

Queer, as a pejorative, doesn't work as an element of an official designation for an entire community of individuals, many of whom seem to be abandoning common use of the word...

The organizers of the NAACP would never have adopted the name  "National Association for the Advancement of Niggers."

On that note, I'll retreat from this discussion and defer to Amy on any point she chooses to make here...

Comment by koshersalaami on August 9, 2018 at 5:31pm

Amy, thanks for the explanation. 

B y the way, I'd be bothered to include Allies in that abbreviation. Allies don't bear the costs. 

Comment by Maui Surfer on August 9, 2018 at 10:16pm

SBA, you are certified idiot. I do not use the word Queer myself, I mentioned that, like the N word by African Americans and Haole, but by LOCAL KAMAAINA HAOLE,, not go-native johnny come lately tourist credulous imbecilic fools, many of whom actually are racist idiot fucking haoles who prove it every day, as if they were actually in the Klan, except a Klan that was scared shitless of its adversaries instead of trying to intimate them, it was being re-appropriated as a defense mechanism by gay teen-age surfers themselves to each other and to select others, they know which ones to pick too. You  are so full of hate you can't get your shit straight. Probably couldn't even fly a gas filled condom straight over the wall at Gaza on your own, you little twerp.


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