I so enjoy/ed having you post here - saw a painting of you as George Washington, yesterday? but was on the way to the oral surgeon with a husband in tooth agony and didn't have time to comment. I loved it!

I wish you knew how much I appreciate you and your input and posts and paintings here and how disappointing it is to sign on this morning and you are no longer here.

Most others who have moved on haven't bothered me so much, it was time, but you I've always looked forward to your posts. I do respect, though, that clearly, you think it is time, too.

Take care out there in the world. I hope you decide to come back but if not, so be it.

As for me, I'll be back after our week off, dancing at a huge hippie fest that's gone on for over 50 years, off in the mini-forest, under a canopy of trees, a get away we haven't participated in in over two decades.

Getting back to our dancing roots - while all our sons take over the homestead, here.

Best to you and big hugs, dear one.

xoxo  Anna

Okay, looked for some brilliant insightful quote to add and.... nada. but this one seemed most like my thoughts and feelings today, and what seems to be disappearing in the world, everywhere (hence our deciding to head to the hippie fest stuffed with wonderful weird people and music and dance and sculptors and painters and artists and freaks).

Be well ~

“Blessed are the weird people: 
poets, misfits, writers
mystics, painters, troubadours
for they teach us to see the world through different eyes.” 
 ~ Jacob Nordby

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Comment by alsoknownas on July 13, 2018 at 5:18am

Ron, Why in the hell would you push me to reveal contents of a confidential conversation if you feel that to do so would be unethical?

Do you feel that somehow your request to breach ethics puts you on some higher level than a person who did not feel they were breaching ethics?

In both instances it seems to me that purpose plays a part in the decision. I understand that a casual announcement of having being close enough to FM to have had a discussion was never thought to be ethically improper. The purpose was to be conversational. It seems that most people will miss her contributions to the site. I understand what was said to me as the reason for her leaving, but I di d not share it. I haven't indicated at all what I read.

I do wonder though what would be the purpose of pushing for what you declare to be an unethical response?

It's disingenuous.

But quite lawyerly.

Comment by Ron Powell on July 13, 2018 at 6:19am

@AKA;  "The fact that AKA had an "in depth" PM conversation re why she left is nobody's business but theirs....

It should have been kept that way..".

I don't understand how you feel that I'm "pushing" you to reveal anything at all...

I just think that you might have done better by keeping the entire thing to yourself...

Why reveal the fact of an "in-depth conversation" and nothing more?

As I said the occurrence of such an exchange and it's contents are nobody's business but yours and FM's. I strongly believe that you should have kept it that way...

I suppose the fact that she confided in you therapeutically is a good thing in and of itself. However, I don't see the value or benefit derived by either of you or the community in the revelation of a confidential conversation on a matter that is of concern and import to nearly everyone here, certainly to everyone who felt close to FM...

Those who are concerned about the health and viability of this platform may well be curious as to the cause of such departures. 

I don't believe that anyone here wants to be the last blogger standing at OS and charged with the responsibility of turning the lights off....

Comment by alsoknownas on July 13, 2018 at 6:27am

This is what you asked of me Ron, after knowing I had a conversation which you say I should not have revealed ever happened. It is posited in such a way as to indicate you think many would benefit. But many did not ask. You asked, and now would like me to believe it's because nobody wants to be the last one standing and have to turn out the lights.

So bring a flashlight:

Comment by Ron Powell 14 hours ago

@AKA; "I discussed the precipitating events with her up until this early a.m., encouraging a change of mind."

Just exactly were the "precipitating events"? I'm sure that many here are curious and would like to know why she felt compelled to flounce....

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on July 13, 2018 at 7:05am

Oh, look!  Bob Ross painted AKA's picture!  How cute!

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Ron, you know you are wasting your efforts trying to reason with AKA, right? 

Even if you are able to get him to admit he is in error he will just continue his whine & cheesy fest via PM which he will then share with everyone in an effort to get everyone to "shun" you (which certain asshats seem to REALLY enjoy doing because they can act like they are taking the high road in public but talk total smack in PMs ::waves at KosherBaloney::). 

Believe me, he does it to me all of the time.

Comment by Maui Surfer on July 13, 2018 at 7:34am

What a load of crap, AKA is one of the most stand up guys I've encountered. If he and Ron want to spar, get the fuck out of the ring and let them go a few rounds ... what the hell is it to you SBA Fake Weasel?

Comment by alsoknownas on July 13, 2018 at 7:38am

Ron,

I don't want you to be shunned.

We certainly do not agree on this matter of confidentiality and our disagreement is openly visible.

Amy,

Your paranoia remains intact. Not once, ever have I received or sent any message to or from any member conspiring against you. It isn't necessary. People dislike you on their own without me encouraging them to do so.

Comment by alsoknownas on July 13, 2018 at 7:42am

Maui Surfer,

I didn't see you up there. Thank you.

Ron and I can handle ourselves just fine and I expect will touch gloves at the end of the bout. 

Comment by Ron Powell on July 13, 2018 at 8:21am

@AKA; I asked before you indicated that you did not feel that you were at liberty to disclose the details of the conversation.

That's when I said that you might have done better by keeping the whole thing to yourself...

We've gone full circle on this and it wouldn't be inappropriate if we simply led it at that...

Keep this in mind, a good lawyer rarely asks a question to which he/she doesn't have or know the answer....

 A person who is good at fishing, won't put a hook in the water without an idea of what he or she is likely to catch....  

Comment by alsoknownas on July 13, 2018 at 8:31am

I am good at fishing Ron, and we agree here at last.

Thank you.

Comment by Safe Bet's Amy on July 13, 2018 at 9:05am

"...AKA is one of the most stand up guys I've encountered."

You obviously need to get out of your parent's basement more often.

"Not once, ever have I received or sent any message to or from any member conspiring against you."

LOL  You are as an adept liar as you are an "Attack PM-er", AKA. 

Two different people sent me excerpts of your PMs attempting to either "shun" me or get me booted out of the site.  So congratulations on being so multi-talented, I guess.

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