The question is worthy of the leader of the KKK, The Neo-Nazis, or any other white supremacist  organization:

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?"  ---Donald J Trump

This is why we must continue to argue and parse what racism is and who racists are....

Condemnation of this question is not enough. This must be squarely confronted for exactly and precisely what it is.

So here's the question:

Why haven't we heard from the people who were in the room when Trump asked his question?

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Comment by Ron Powell on January 13, 2018 at 11:41am

Yes, there's a distinct difference in taste between Coke and Peosi....

I prefer Pepsi...

Comment by Rodney Roe on January 13, 2018 at 1:55pm

Pepsi sucks.  Just sayin'.  Coke for me.  Does this have anything to do with the history of coca-cola?

Pemberton, the Atlanta pharmacist..." introduced Coca-Cola in 1886. At the time, the soda fountains of Atlanta pharmacies had become fashionable gathering places for middle-class whites as an alternative to bars. Mixed with soda water, the drink quickly caught on as an “intellectual beverage” among well-off whites."  Pemberton's first "health aid" was French wine containing cocaine.  Atlanta's temperance laws outlawed selling alcohol, and Coca-cola was born.

Of course, it hasn't contained cocaine in a long time.

Ron, I guess you aren't "intellectual" enough. (laugh)

Comment by Ron Powell on January 13, 2018 at 2:32pm

@RR;  "Ron, I guess you aren't "intellectual" enough."

I was an undergraduate at Howard University from 1964 through 1968, during the height of 'the movement'.

 Back then Coca-cola was considered by many of us to be the preferred soft drink of establishment conservative white folks...

We drank Pepsi as an act of defiance and insisted that the University Administration drop Coke in the dining and common areas...

Those were heady times...

As it turns out I actuality do prefer the taste of Pepsi to CokeBut will stop for t"he pause that refreshes" when there is no option.....

Comment by Ron Powell on January 13, 2018 at 2:56pm

"Coca-Cola entered South Africa in 1938 and, after the beginning of the official white South African government's policy of apartheid or "separate development" beginning in 1948, the company grew rapidly. By the 1980s at the height of racial oppression, with 90% of the market, Coke dominated the soft-drink industry with sales in the hundreds of millions of dollars, accounting for 5% of the parent company's global market. Coke employed 4,500 workers, operating under the racially segregated housing, workplace, and wages, and was one of the largest employers in the country.[31]

In 1982 in South Africa, black workers asked the community to boycott Coke and called two work stoppages until the company agreed to recognize and bargain with their union, raise its workers' low wages significantly, and share information on who controls their pension fund.[32]

As a result of Coke's economic support of white South Africa and its apartheid system, in the 1980s, it became a major target of organizers across the country against U.S. and corporate economic support for apartheid in the U.S. Boycotts then spread across the country to many universities including Tennessee State, Penn State, and Compton College in California, which established a "Coke Free Campus." Demonstrations were held by the Georgia Coalition and the AFSC at Coca-Cola's Atlanta headquarters.[33][34]

In South Africa, in 1986, the Coca-Cola response was to donate US$10 million to a fund to support improvements of housing and education for black South Africans and to announce "...plans to sell its 30% share of a major bottler and a 55% share of a canning operation within six to nine months." [35] (The company's assets there were estimated at US$60 million, their annual sales were circa US$260 million, and with 4,300 workers one of the largest U.S. employers in South Africa.) However, the movement in the U.S. demanded full divestiture and did not accept the company's offer to sell a major portion of the holdings to a South African firm.[36]

After democratic elections that produced Mandela's majority rule government, Pepsi sought to re-enter the South African market. In fact, "Coke never truly left the country, leading to overwhelming dominance through the rest of the 20th century. Pepsi adhered to different social imperatives and suffered exceptionally low market shares as a result." [37] Indeed, in the late 2000s, Coke's market share of the soft drink market in South Africa was estimated at 95% and Pepsi's at 2%..."


Howard University students along with students at some of the other HBCUs were 20 years ahead of the curve in calling for divestiture and boycott of American corporations that did business in South Africa. One of the principal corporate entities was Coca-Cola...

Comment by Rodney Roe on January 13, 2018 at 3:35pm

About 15 years ago I was in a social setting and spent quite a bit of time with the vice-president of the Southeastern division of Pepsi.  He had been with the company for about 40 years and when I asked what most amazed him in that time he replied, "that people would pay for water in a bottle when they could get it free out of the tap."  At the lunch break I got a Coke.  He became angry and wouldn't talk to me after that.  He didn't strike me as the type who rejected Coke on the basis of their business model.

I understand the Howard students' stand, but would still have preferred the taste of Coke.  It's a good thing you don't have a conflict.  I am an acquaintance of a distant member of the "Coke family".  He is a real racist.  That family bought Coca Cola from Pemberton, the inventor.

Comment by Rodney Roe on January 14, 2018 at 5:23am

Fortunately, I don't drink sodas at all now and don't have to make the sacrifice.

Comment by Rodney Roe on January 14, 2018 at 6:35am

Dr. Pepper & peanuts. The best on a hot summer day.

Comment by koshersalaami on January 14, 2018 at 8:29am

For a hot summer day, I'd say Cheerwine in a glass bottle

Comment by koshersalaami on January 14, 2018 at 8:30am

I prefer Coke to Pepsi. When I was young, I preferred Pepsi. On the other hand, I prefer 7Up to Sprite. 

Comment by Steel Breeze on January 14, 2018 at 8:39am

when i was a kiid i liked Coke more because it had stronger carbonation and was less,because my taster is wore out or a formula change,they both taste flat and sweet to i stick with beer...


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