"What was that line from the Sixties, about how difficult it is for one's cynicism to keep pace with the times. It's an unpleasant exercise, for sure. Funny part is, in ten years we'll look back on this as the good old days."
"Great. Born agains who hate Christ.
Cheshyre, the same astounds me. I wasn’t prepared for Republican Congressional cynicism. I didn’t foresee the extent to which they’d back this guy, no matter what."
"I was flummoxed the first time I encountered someone using social programs that they had previously been violently opposed to. When I asked them, they said they were going to get "their share" and it was totally legal for them to do…"
"Back then it was the Christians - who were the liberals of their day. Now it's all reversed.
It just astounds me we have an open traitor as our President and so many people are so selfish they could care less as long as they get their way."
Agreed, with one or two qualifiers. We R fucked, have been for quite some time, if you believe what Sheldon Wolin says in Democracy, Inc, and it's kinda hard not to if you have a couple brain cells to rub together. Now, as to how and why we got to where we are... do you really think the American people are self loathing? Self loathing presupposes some level of self awareness, the ability to understand why one does the things one does or at.least to understand that those things are bad, but after observing Americans for decades, my take on us is that we tend to be - in effect, when viewed collectively, even though quite a few of us are perfectly nice as individuals - smug, complacent, selfish, vicious motherfuckers and a whole lot of other stuff too, but aside from some bleating immediately after 9 1 1 to the effect of "why do they hate us?" I haven't noticed much if any handwringing or introspection about who and how we are, still less any genuine sense of guilt or self-hatred for the atrocities daily committed in our name so we can have more Bluetooth speakers and 2017 V8 Dodge Challengers and carrier battle groups and all the other rewards attendant on generating the world's grossest national product.
Wow. My apolyogies about the uber-long sentence there - I looked and looked but couldn't seem to find any appropriate places in that sumbitch to break it into more manageable segments...